Build report: Brett's Modulatron ring mod

Started by octafish, May 22, 2005, 07:33:29 PM

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octafish

After struggling with a "classic" diode ring modulator for a while and not being able to cancel the carrier wave to my satisfaction I decided to give brett's modulatron circuit a try out. Plus seeing all the recent posts on getting the Ring Fronicator working when I had such an easy time building this very effective ring mod prompted me to post a build report. I built it using brett's pcb layout pasted to a piece of pad per hole perfboard as a guide. That made the build quick and easy. Building the board without external wiring took one and a half hours, that is really fast for me. There was only one component I didn't have, the cd4066 chip, which is available in the RS equivalents in Oz. I only made three changes to Brett's design.


First, I substituted 270n caps for the 220n caps 'cause I couldn't find the 220n's that I knew I had around here somewhere. Yep found them right after I finished.
Second I added a line in for a carrier wave using a mono switching jack, because, well why have a ring modulator if your not going to make weirdness? and whats weirder than modulating your guitar signal with a talk radio station, or a casio keyboard demo song.
Third, I made the nulling trimpot an external pot because I would be feeding different signals into the carrier.

I had considered buying an expensive chip to build a proper ring mod if this didn't work but i won't be buying an ad633 anytime soon. This thing plays great. A little bit of carrier signal sneaks through but it's a lot less than with my diode tranformer monster. I think a diy noise gate should fix this without harming sustain too badly,(should be less than the level I need for piezo pickups). The Modulatron is a lot cleaner in its clangs and daleknations than with the diodes as well, but if I ever need the fuzzyness of the diodes a mild fuzz post modulator should get the same effect.
One day, when I can justify the money spent on such a weird and seldom used effect, I'd like to buy a commercial ring mod, (read this subliminally: frostwave, frostwave, frostwave, buy Australian) but until that day I'll be very happy with this (Australian designed) diy alternative.

Its here.

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~jethro.dog/gallery.html
This build should provide less hassles than diodes and transformers, and actually cost me less than my passive ring mod did.
edit: spelling

P.S. I have had this thingy running for a week now and think I am over the "honeymoon" phase. Also coming soon a build report on a FY-2 with built in booster (when I stop tweaking it).
Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. -Last words of Breaker Morant

Paul Perry (Frostwave)

And here's another Australian Ring Mod:
http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgsrr.html

It's Ken Stone's passive, which he sells fro $30 assembled (contains four hand matched germanium diodes).
He sells plenty of bare PCBs for various synth modules (mostly +-12v though). The passive ring mod is only available assembled, though. But there is enough info there to DIY, if you feel up to matching the diodes.

octafish

That is a very reasonable price for matched ge diodes, plus a compact pcb and two transformers (they look like the DSE/Jaycar ones I used). My matched set was closely, but not perfectly matched from a pool of 20 or so IN60s and I still got a heap more carrier wave leakage than the modulatron. Ring mods are my favorite effect to play with but I just can't seem to find an actual use for them in live/band situations.
Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. -Last words of Breaker Morant

Transmogrifox

Radiohead finds some good uses for ring modulators.  Granted they aren't being used constantly on every song like effects such as distortion and delays, but that's a band that will give you good ideas of how to use it in a live setting.

Check out my thread on the yaya effect.  That can be accomplished with a high-Q filter (like Mutron and similar) and a ring mod if you're at all interested in the vocal "ye, yah, yaya" sound.  I have a sound sample of it posted there.
trans·mog·ri·fy
tr.v. trans·mog·ri·fied, trans·mog·ri·fy·ing, trans·mog·ri·fies To change into a different shape or form, especially one that is fantastic or bizarre.