Mounting vero/pcb in the enclosure?

Started by Evad Nomenclature, October 02, 2008, 01:42:59 PM

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Evad Nomenclature

Hey guys.

Any idea of a good/the best way to mount a vero or PCB in an enclosure?
I'm getting better at neatening (is that a word) up my wiring, but I hate having that free floating vero or pcb in the pedal.
So what's the best way to mount?
thanks!
Evad Nomenclature III
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mth5044

I like the little plastic standoffs that some boards allow to be put in them. Otherwize there is.... hotglue? I sometimes wrap tape around the whole board and just toss it in there  :icon_mrgreen:

davent

Hello,
I've used double sided foam tape for some as well as epoxying aluminum standoffs to the box and mounting the board to those.




dave
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mth5044


Evad Nomenclature

Thanks guys.

I actually just bought a hot glue gun a few days ago, thinking maybe I could use it to hold wires on the outside of the box and stuff.  I'm just a little scared about glueing stuff, knowing that if at some point in time, the box needs service that the glue would be, well , sort of a pain in the ass ^_^
Dave, that is indeed a cool pic and a tidy job you got going on in that build.  What pedal is that btw?
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hday

I buy nylon bolts and nuts at my local hardware store. I put the board at the head of the bolt with a nut under it. Then I glue a nut to the bottom of my enclosure. Just cut the bolt to size and screw it into the nut on the enclosure. Just be careful not to accidentally glue the bolt in there. I've been impatient with the glue on the nuts and ended up having to reglue them because the bolt got some glue on the threads.

frequencycentral

For small boards I favour filing slots in either side of the enclosure, filing the board to fit, and slotting it in.



I also like to mount the pots on the board, so the pots hold the board in place.

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Güero

Quote from: davent on October 02, 2008, 03:00:29 PM
Hello,
I've used double sided foam tape for some as well as epoxying aluminum standoffs to the box and mounting the board to those.




dave


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MicFarlow77

Quote from: davent on October 02, 2008, 03:00:29 PM


Say AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

I see you got some cavities to fill there.....

davent

Quote from: Evad Nomenclature on October 03, 2008, 02:18:51 PM
Thanks guys.

I actually just bought a hot glue gun a few days ago, thinking maybe I could use it to hold wires on the outside of the box and stuff.  I'm just a little scared about glueing stuff, knowing that if at some point in time, the box needs service that the glue would be, well , sort of a pain in the ass ^_^
Dave, that is indeed a cool pic and a tidy job you got going on in that build.  What pedal is that btw?


Hi Dave,
Hopefully one day it will be a functioning Skyripper but at the moment it's on hiatus. My least enjoyed phase of building is wiring in outboard components and this one has 18 so i seem to have gotten sidetracked into more fun activities like actually playing the guitar.  ;D

...as it has sat for the past couple of weeks.



Have fun
dave
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davent

Quote from: frequencycentral on October 03, 2008, 06:52:50 PM
For small boards I favour filing slots in either side of the enclosure, filing the board to fit, and slotting it in.





That's a really good idea, have to give that a try  sometime down the road.

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asfastasdark

I just love looking at gut shots. I think we should start a seperate "Gut shots!" thread.  :o  A full PCB just makes me feel so fulfilled...  :D

Paul Perry (Frostwave)

I've never had any luck with hot glue, at least at gluing anything to a case.
it seems to me that the metal case takes so much heat from the glue, that it doesn't have a chance to stick to it.
Admittedly, my house is a lot colder than the average house - but that shouldn't make all that much difference.

tiges_ tendres

Quote from: Paul Perry (Frostwave) on October 03, 2008, 10:22:12 PM
I've never had any luck with hot glue, at least at gluing anything to a case.
it seems to me that the metal case takes so much heat from the glue, that it doesn't have a chance to stick to it.
Admittedly, my house is a lot colder than the average house - but that shouldn't make all that much difference.

That has been my experience too.  The enclosure sucks too much of the heat out of the glue.

I have used liquid nails.  But it's a bit messy, takes too long to dry.

I kind of run a strip of the liquid nails, then push one of the board edges into the glue.  Then I hold it for what seems like hours!
If you do choose this method, make sure you make the side of the board you are putting in the glue a little deeper than normal so as not to cover components in glue.

This method holds really solid, but isnt so indestructible if you have to make changes later
Try a little tenderness.

Evad Nomenclature

Quote from: frequencycentral on October 03, 2008, 06:52:50 PM
For small boards I favour filing slots in either side of the enclosure, filing the board to fit, and slotting it in.



I also like to mount the pots on the board, so the pots hold the board in place.



Very cool man.  Crazy wiring job.  Looks like My Little Pony got ahold of your pedal for a bit in the middle there!  ;D
Looks like a solid way to keep things together though.

With the other shot, just as a side note, as you gonna have some issues from having that tube in the pedal?  (i.e. heat issues?)

Evad Nomenclature III
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m-theory

The only glue that I've found that actually sticks well enough to mount boards (and battery clips) to is, of all things, "Plastic fusion," which is an epoxy product made by, I believe, Loctite.  Don't ask me why something called "Plastic fusion" works on aluminum, but it does.  JB weld doesn't, hot glue doesn't, crazy glue doesn't, etc.  I've tried just about anything and everything (except gorilla glue, which might hold, but takes far too long to set up for this application). 

The plastic fusion stuff is a 5 minute epoxy.  Mix it up, mount your stand offs, walk away from 20 minutes or so, and you're ready to mount boards. 

frequencycentral

Quote from: Evad Nomenclature on October 04, 2008, 10:45:57 AM
With the other shot, just as a side note, as you gonna have some issues from having that tube in the pedal?  (i.e. heat issues?)

No real heat issues, 12AU7 tubes get warm but not hot.

6111 tubes get really hot though - I usually file little slots in the side of the enclosure for heat escape:

http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/

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birt

double sided foam tape here. it's neat, insulated and not that hard to take the board out again if needed.
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Evad Nomenclature

Quote from: frequencycentral on October 04, 2008, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: Evad Nomenclature on October 04, 2008, 10:45:57 AM
With the other shot, just as a side note, as you gonna have some issues from having that tube in the pedal?  (i.e. heat issues?)

No real heat issues, 12AU7 tubes get warm but not hot.

6111 tubes get really hot though - I usually file little slots in the side of the enclosure for heat escape:



Neato ^_^
very cool.
Evad Nomenclature III
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davent

I'll sometimes use hotmelt glue to hold a 3mm LED in the hole but before applying the glue I warm up the box with a hot air gun otherwise, like others have mentioned the box sucks all the heat from the glue and it just pops off. Put the LED in the hole, heat the area with the hot air gun then apply the glue over the back of the LED and wires. You may need to press and hold the LED in place as it takes awhile for the glue to cool and set up.

dave
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