GGG has a new reverb kit!

mth5044 · May 15, 2009, 09:49:03 AM

and it's only $65.

http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=243&Itemid=26

It uses one of those Belton doodads. Looks interesting!

biggy boy · May 15, 2009, 10:02:39 AM

Nice!

I see that Small Bear sells the belton btdr-1h Reverb box for $18.00
The rest of the circuit looks pretty straight forward too.

ppatchmods · May 15, 2009, 10:38:51 AM

I just ordered the kit from GGG. Anyone built it, or any reverb from the beltone yet?

R.G. · May 15, 2009, 10:40:50 AM

This is Beltone's second attempt at a reverb module. The first was pretty dreadful. They got some good advice, took it, and this one's pretty good.

Lurco · May 15, 2009, 01:47:28 PM

What about the rumors concerning the brick-internals? (Alesis or Spin?)

iaresee · May 15, 2009, 02:13:21 PM

I'd be very interested in hearing a build report. And even more interested in hearing clips. My thanks in advance to you guys trying it out.

Curly · May 15, 2009, 04:30:39 PM

I was looking at this one the other day too ...

I'm glad JD got the build files up.

Taylor · May 15, 2009, 04:50:39 PM

Quote from: Lurco on May 15, 2009, 01:47:28 PM
What about the rumors concerning the brick-internals? (Alesis or Spin?)

According to Doug Deeper, it's just a bunch of PT2399s with a little support circuitry.

Jay · May 17, 2009, 05:46:34 AM

With 10K Zin and no signal loss this could be interesting to try directly in a tube amp - i.e. no transformer or recovery stage.

Has anyone tried that yet?

Jay

head_spaz · May 17, 2009, 07:31:16 AM

Quote from: Jay on May 17, 2009, 05:46:34 AM
With 10K Zin and no signal loss this could be interesting to try directly in a tube amp - i.e. no transformer or recovery stage.

Has anyone tried that yet?

Jay

Reading the spec sheet for the tank, it shows that power and signal grounds are connected inside the module.
This likely means that it will require it's own separate powersupply, as it will be not be possible to use the filament supply because of it's virtual or CT ground, or elevated heater connection. Grounding the other end of an elevated filament supply would be BAD NEWS for the tubes!!!

Jay · May 17, 2009, 07:58:45 AM

Quote from: head_spaz on May 17, 2009, 07:31:16 AM

This likely means that it will require it's own separate powersupply, as it will be not be possible to use the filament supply because of it's virtual or CT ground, or elevated heater connection.

True enough, but providing suitable power to it wouldn't be too difficult/expensive and cost/space requirements compared to a conventional tube/transformer/tank system are very attractive - providing it sounds any good!

Jay

head_spaz · May 17, 2009, 08:33:47 AM

Quote from: Jay on May 17, 2009, 07:58:45 AM
True enough, but providing suitable power to it wouldn't be too difficult/expensive and cost/space requirements compared to a conventional tube/transformer/tank system are very attractive - providing it sounds any good!
Jay

Yes, I agree.
But I felt it imperative to point this out, lest it be overlooked or forgotten and someone lets the magic smoke out of those expensive tubes, transformers and the like.

doug deeper · May 17, 2009, 08:41:39 AM

i said it COULD BE the pt chips, there are at least two (i couldnt get all of the cover off) 16 pin sm ics in there (there is plenty room for more!) and the other goodies look to be in the right place, but im not saying thats whats going on for sure!
gotta cover my tracks in case in wrong!

Taylor · May 17, 2009, 11:05:37 AM

Sorry Doug, didn't mean to throw you under the tracks.

I heard some sound clips, and I think if it was using a DSP chip, it could have a more believable spring sound than it does.

ppatchmods · May 19, 2009, 10:20:46 AM

Found this a few minutes ago. they just posted it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJrKTi1emR8

biggy boy · May 19, 2009, 10:38:53 AM

Just ordered the kit.

Can't wait to get it.

mth5044 · May 19, 2009, 07:37:18 PM

That video is a real turnoff for me. It sounds like it's just a delay with really short delay times, not a reverb-like sound, like the new spring chicken.

Taylor · May 19, 2009, 07:58:13 PM

FWIW, I think it's likely that the Spring Chicken uses the Belton box. Seems it sprang (NPI) into existence right when this chip appeared, and at the same time as the Mr. Springgy, which we know uses the Belton. Malekko even says something like, "we didn't invent this chip, but we made it sound good".

Curly · May 19, 2009, 10:37:15 PM

listen to the clips that are posted ... they're a much better use of reverb

Quote from: mth5044 on May 19, 2009, 07:37:18 PM
That video is a real turnoff for me. It sounds like it's just a delay with really short delay times, not a reverb-like sound, like the new spring chicken.

Kitarist · May 20, 2009, 04:35:38 AM

looks kinda interesting

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