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Title: using R.G.'s onboard buffer with piezos
Post by: bluebunny on January 30, 2015, 09:32:30 AM
I was looking for a simple onboard preamp or buffer to hook up with a piezo under-saddle transducer.  How would R.G.'s onboard buffer (http://www.geofex.com/FX_images/Onboard_Preamp.pdf) suit?  I really like the simplicity (and it's all I need), but I've not been able to find any mention of it being used with piezos.  Would the input impedance be high enough?  If not, could it be tweaked easily?
Title: Re: using R.G.'s onboard buffer with piezos
Post by: vigilante397 on January 30, 2015, 10:30:39 AM
Seems like it could be tweaked easily enough. I plan on breadboarding this over the weekend (read "sometime in the next 6 months when I have free time") and playing with it to find the ideal sound for my electric, then I was thinking about trying it with the acoustic as well. If nobody gets to it before me I will let you know how it goes :P
Title: Re: using R.G.'s onboard buffer with piezos
Post by: PRR on January 30, 2015, 12:25:44 PM
> Would the input impedance be high enough?

Yes.
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Post by: bluebunny on January 30, 2015, 12:26:31 PM
Thanks Paul.
Title: Re: using R.G.'s onboard buffer with piezos
Post by: ubersam on January 30, 2015, 06:29:56 PM
If you want something even simpler, a JFET buffer works pretty well. I replaced the onboard preamp in a friend's Epi acoustic and we both liked it better, except there was no quick way to adjust the tone/eq/volume as before.
Title: Re: using R.G.'s onboard buffer with piezos
Post by: Eddododo on January 30, 2015, 08:11:00 PM
http://personalpages.tds.net/~fdeck/bass/quickand.pdf
LOVE this one... it was the first active circuit i ever built, and i have built and used several of them. 2n5486 is my favorite choice.. you can fit this anywhere
Title: Re: using R.G.'s onboard buffer with piezos
Post by: jatalahd on February 01, 2015, 06:46:35 AM
+1 for Deck's quick-and-dirty buffer. If you want to keep the low-end response decent even on a guitar, you'll need to get close to that 10Meg input impedance. For example, even with 1Meg input impedance your low-end will be clearly dampened. A FET buffer is suitable, because its intrinsic input impedance is more like 100Meg, so all you need to do is to select the gate-to-ground resistor to fix your input impedance.
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Post by: bluebunny on February 01, 2015, 07:43:27 AM
Thanks for these suggestions too. I've also found the piezo article (http://www.muzique.com/news/piezo-pickups/) on Jack's blog, which looks interesting.

Edit: added URL to Jack's blog.