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Title: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: caspercody on February 09, 2016, 09:51:22 PM
Can anyone familiar with using a cab simulator watch this Youtube video and let me know what they think of this pedal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZJ6rgH1cys

Thanks
Rob
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: FiveseveN on February 10, 2016, 09:07:30 AM
Cabsim demos on clean channels are pretty much useless.
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: caspercody on February 10, 2016, 08:45:03 PM
Thanks for the reply. Do you have any cab simulator (in a pedal) you would recommend?

Thanks
Rob
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: J0K3RX on February 10, 2016, 09:41:57 PM
It's digital or so it says. Not that this is be a bad thing, as long as it sounds good.. But that remains to be heard.
http://www.aromamusic.cn/

Sort of inline with this one by Mooer.. a few demos on the tube but nothing overly stunning
http://www.mooeraudio.com/?product/201410165840.html

Both Chinese mass produced boxes..

This guy MaxZ makes great cab sims and makes by hand.. Sells them for cheap but you have to contact him by email or facebook. Transactions are through paypal. I bought a couple of his pedals a couple years ago and they were excellent builds! I have been tempted to get a couple of his cab sims but haven't pulled the trigger yet..
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: FiveseveN on February 11, 2016, 07:11:29 AM
Quote from: caspercody on February 10, 2016, 08:45:03 PM
Do you have any cab simulator (in a pedal) you would recommend?
I've always said digital ones are hard to beat. Unfortunately there aren't a lot in pedal format. Two I know of are the AMT Pangea and Logidy EPSI.
What I'd really love would be a stereo one (with different impulses on each channel). That's what's missing from my own pedalboard.
But as long as you're considering the analog route, why not just build one yourself?
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: caspercody on February 11, 2016, 10:32:38 PM
Thanks!

I am thinking of building one. I found the Simple Cabsim rev 2.0 that Jok3rx highly recommended in a tread, and also the Multicab sim from DSM noisemaker layouts.

Time for me right now is limited with (2) young kids, and I saw the AROMA ASR-3 for cheap, less than $50.00 shipped to me.

But is it that cheap because it is not to good? That is why I started this subject, just to see what all of you might think of it, that have used cab sim's before.

Thanks
Rob
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: deadastronaut on February 12, 2016, 06:44:42 AM
hi rob, do you have a link to the simple cab sim?...


Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: caspercody on February 12, 2016, 08:04:03 PM
Scroll down to reply #12.

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=106185.msg959684#msg959684
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: caspercody on February 18, 2016, 10:36:15 PM
I found a YouTube of the pedal with a distortion pedal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBuNm3jcWck

Again I have never used a cabinet simulator, and curious of peoples opinion of how this sounds to them that have used cabinet simulators?

Thanks
Rob
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: FiveseveN on February 19, 2016, 06:04:42 AM
Quote from: caspercody on February 18, 2016, 10:36:15 PM
I found a YouTube of the pedal with a distortion pedal

Yet instead of recording it direct with his UX1, he records the speakers with a crappy camera mic.  ::)
I should write up a gear demo how-to.
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: J0K3RX on February 19, 2016, 02:59:00 PM
Quote from: caspercody on February 18, 2016, 10:36:15 PM
I found a YouTube of the pedal with a distortion pedal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBuNm3jcWck

Again I have never used a cabinet simulator, and curious of peoples opinion of how this sounds to them that have used cabinet simulators?

Thanks
Rob

Taking into consideration that he recorded it with the camera mic as FiveseveN pointed out, it sounds pretty damn good to me! I have used and built a lot of cab/speaker simulators and this one sounds really good to me! If you can get one for $30, $40 or even $50 or even more I would go for it if it's what you want... For $30 or $40 it really is a no brainer, to me anyway. He is using the Tight Metal also which is a preamp and I am very familiar with that pedal  :icon_wink: Sounds good to me, go for it...
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: caspercody on February 19, 2016, 04:35:59 PM
Thanks for the information. It is only about $37.00, so I think I will get it.

Thanks again!!!
Rob
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: smarkalet1 on January 15, 2018, 09:00:42 AM
Did you end up getting it? Do you like it?
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: caspercody on January 15, 2018, 09:14:39 PM
Yes I bought it, and it works good. I have nothing to compare it to. I think it is analog.

I am now thinking of trying a new one, Mooer Audio Radar, which is a digital one.

Anyone have any other thought on cheap good ones. I love Two Notes, but I cannot spend that much money for just playing at home with.

Or any thoughts on which one to DIY? On the Aroma ASR-3 I have I mostly just use the three settings that are all 4x12. The three settings are:

V30 = Celestion
GB = Green Back
MB = Mesa Boogie

Thanks
Rob



Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: FiveseveN on January 16, 2018, 05:24:28 AM
Quote from: caspercody on January 15, 2018, 09:14:39 PM
Yes I bought it, and it works good. I have nothing to compare it to. I think it is analog.
You bought a pedal and haven't opened it up yet?! What kind of DIYer are you? ;D

To follow up on my last reply, looks like the dude recorded a proper demo in the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtppqA5e4uE
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: temol on January 16, 2018, 05:47:48 AM
Quote from: FiveseveN
You bought a pedal and haven't opened it up yet?! What kind of DIYer are you? ;D

I was going to ask the same question...  What are you waiting for? :) Open, open.. open..

T.
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: marcelomd on January 16, 2018, 08:13:21 AM
Hi,

I built a ROG Condor cab sim into my headphone amp and it works very well. I actually like its tone more than my Ampeg combo. One thing I don't like is the gain knob which distorts too soon.

It is a simple project if you want to build it.
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: caspercody on January 16, 2018, 11:49:25 AM
I did open it when I first got it, and if I remember it is analog. I can re-open it and take pictures if you want?
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: deadastronaut on January 16, 2018, 03:18:16 PM
yes please....lets have a looky.... 8)
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: caspercody on January 17, 2018, 09:03:39 PM

(https://s9.postimg.org/7pe1q3kjv/IMG_0700.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7pe1q3kjv/)

(https://s9.postimg.org/lvtslcqa3/IMG_0701.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lvtslcqa3/)

(https://s9.postimg.org/j1qn7xiyz/IMG_0702.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/j1qn7xiyz/)

(https://s9.postimg.org/p2oc4zq5n/IMG_0710.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/p2oc4zq5n/)

(https://s9.postimg.org/7pe1q4n4r/IMG_0718.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7pe1q4n4r/)

(https://s9.postimg.org/6zv9ds20r/IMG_0719.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6zv9ds20r/)
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: caspercody on January 17, 2018, 09:05:04 PM
I will try to get more pictures later. These are the best ones I could find so far.
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: Rob Strand on January 17, 2018, 11:22:34 PM
The big chip has marking TMS32xxxx. 
I can't read the rest but I'm pretty certain it's a TMS320xxxx which is a (common) Texas Instruments DSP chip.
So all the filter goodies for the cab sim etc will be implemented in software inside that.


Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: deadastronaut on January 18, 2018, 12:09:26 PM
cheers,   wow, that looks a lot more complicated than i initially thought it would....
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: caspercody on January 18, 2018, 09:46:46 PM
Do you want more pictures, or probably not worth trying to DIY?
Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: deadastronaut on January 19, 2018, 12:28:21 PM
prob not worth it then....cheers though.


Title: Re: Cabinet simulator - AROMA ASR-3 - what do you think?
Post by: ElectricDruid on January 19, 2018, 02:01:41 PM
That's pretty cool to see though. That's a lot of DSP in a little box...which of course is the way things are going. You can design a pedal like that and then change the software and the box's screen printing and you've got a new product. TC Electronic are well on top of this, from what I can see. And since the cost of production is largely about the numbers, being able to re-use the same board for many pedals makes a lot of sense.

Sigh...Maybe one day.;)

T.