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Title: NE570 compander with bipolar power supply
Post by: Yazoo on February 07, 2019, 11:27:12 AM
I have been experimenting with a vibrato circuit which uses varistors using the circuit in Stompboxology vol. 5 No. 1 (figure 2 page 3) http://moosapotamus.net/files/stompboxology-vibrato-rama.pdf (http://moosapotamus.net/files/stompboxology-vibrato-rama.pdf) It uses a bipolar power supply. The problem is, despite using bypass capacitors and small value resistors to isolate voltage to the different parts of the circuit, I cannot get rid of the LFO thump. I wanted to try integrating an NE570 compander which is rated up to a maximum 24 volts. My bipolar supply is +12/-12 v. I wanted advice on how to connect the ground connections for the NE570. I assume +12v goes to vcc on the compander and -12v goes to power ground. Should links to ground through capacitors etc. go to bipolar ground (0 volts), or to -12v?

The vibrato I am getting is nice, if only I could get rid of the thump
Title: Re: NE570 compander with bipolar power supply
Post by: antonis on February 07, 2019, 12:08:20 PM
Can't open your attachement but the general idea is ALL capacitors should have one leg linked to GND (0 Volts DC or AC..)
(exception for decoupling bi-polar supply caps where you can link both to GND or replace them with a single cap between + & - (Vcc & Vee).
Title: Re: NE570 compander with bipolar power supply
Post by: GGBB on February 07, 2019, 08:20:27 PM
Quote from: antonis on February 07, 2019, 12:08:20 PM
Can't open your attachement but the general idea is ALL capacitors should have one leg linked to GND (0 Volts DC or AC..)
(exception for decoupling bi-polar supply caps where you can link both to GND or replace them with a single cap between + & - (Vcc & Vee).

Not ALL capacitors. Series capacitors are excepted obviously.

Quote from: Yazoo on February 07, 2019, 11:27:12 AM
I wanted advice on how to connect the ground connections for the NE570. I assume +12v goes to vcc on the compander and -12v goes to power ground.

I could be wrong, but I don't think you can run the NE570 from a bi-polar supply using Vcc and GND. The datasheet states "intended for use in single power supply systems" so I think you can only run it using +12V and GND.
Title: Re: NE570 compander with bipolar power supply
Post by: anotherjim on February 08, 2019, 04:54:35 AM
I'm not sure how much of the original circuit you made, but note IC1 forming a power rail splitter for connection "B". To convert to bi-polar, IC1 isn't needed and "B" becomes ground.
Title: Re: NE570 compander with bipolar power supply
Post by: antonis on February 08, 2019, 06:02:30 AM
Quote from: GGBB on February 07, 2019, 08:20:27 PM
Quote from: antonis on February 07, 2019, 12:08:20 PM
Can't open your attachement but the general idea is ALL capacitors should have one leg linked to GND (0 Volts DC or AC..)
(exception for decoupling bi-polar supply caps where you can link both to GND or replace them with a single cap between + & - (Vcc & Vee).
Not ALL capacitors. Series capacitors are excepted obviously.
:icon_biggrin: :icon_smile: :icon_lol: :icon_smile: :icon_lol:

(one leg grounded capacitor can't considered "series" anymore, can it Gord..??)
Title: Re: NE570 compander with bipolar power supply
Post by: GGBB on February 08, 2019, 09:07:00 AM
Quote from: antonis on February 08, 2019, 06:02:30 AM
:icon_biggrin: :icon_smile: :icon_lol: :icon_smile: :icon_lol:

(one leg grounded capacitor can't considered "series" anymore, can it Gord..??)
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No it can't, just like it can't be considered "ALL" :)