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Title: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: Kipper4 on October 01, 2019, 08:27:24 AM
Hey guys It's been a while.
I've been working on another dub siren.
Here she is so far. Looking for potential improvement ideas. Maybe a different type of VCO
Thanks for looking

ok so where is everyone using to upload images these days.
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: EBK on October 01, 2019, 08:34:07 AM
Quote from: Kipper4 on October 01, 2019, 08:27:24 AM
ok so where is everyone using to upload images these days.
Imgur.com is nice.  Or, you can click the "Add image to post" link immediately below the edit text box to use postimage, which seems to be more temporary.
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: Kipper4 on October 01, 2019, 08:35:53 AM



(https://i.postimg.cc/f315FLz1/Digi-Dub-Siren1.png) (https://postimg.cc/f315FLz1)
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: Kipper4 on October 01, 2019, 08:36:54 AM
Thanks Eric I used the link.
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: ElectricDruid on October 01, 2019, 03:58:53 PM
We want sound samples! We want sound samples! What do we want? SOUND SAMPLES! When do we want them? NOW!!   :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: GibsonGM on October 01, 2019, 04:53:45 PM
Without sound....well, it just never happened....    ;)
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: Kipper4 on October 02, 2019, 09:01:47 AM
I'll do a demo for you asap.

meanwhile version 2 with a cd4046 vco


(https://i.postimg.cc/SnqSFqgt/Trikbox-Digi-Dub-Siren-2.png) (https://postimg.cc/SnqSFqgt)
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: Kipper4 on October 03, 2019, 09:01:47 AM
Its rough but nearly ready.

https://youtu.be/VCWSx7n7OJk/
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: Kipper4 on October 10, 2019, 05:13:30 PM
In the process of refining this. (More like over engineering.)
At the moment it has CD4046 vco
Op amp Luna style lfo with wave mixer pot
Electric Druid StompLFO lfo

Works Fine no problems mixing the lfo's via a pot into the vco cv input.

Continuing that line I'm gonna throw a transistor PSO in the mix and see if it's worth the parts as there's room to spare on the pcb.

Now my dilemma is the potential lfo switching.
I'd like to mix any two of the lfos
Use any single lfo alone
Have a no lfo (manual vco cv) option.

1cv input
7 input options
lfo 1+2,  lfo1+3,  lfo2+3, lfo1 alone, lfo2 alone, lfo3 alone, manual

Got any ideas what style of switch might be good for the  application.

Thanks guys


Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: Kipper4 on October 10, 2019, 05:20:10 PM
Ps enclosure space is not an issue.
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: GibsonGM on October 10, 2019, 05:54:25 PM
Nice work Rich!

(https://miro.medium.com/max/640/1*4FhiRvpGMuORtyw9gSVp0A.png)
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: Kipper4 on October 13, 2019, 05:23:08 AM
The pso added nothing that the stoplfo couldnt do and the same for a cd4093. So they got scrapped.
Negating the switching dilema.
I think I've done enough on this now for a proto build.
Chocks away.
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: Kipper4 on October 17, 2019, 01:21:35 PM
For the Stomplfo wave form selection I planned to do it via switching, rather than pot.

I've ordered some 8 pole rotary switches.
But I'm bored with that idea before they have even arrived and I'm not sure that's the look I'm going for.

What alternatives are there? Push buttons matrice?
8switches in a row. When one is activated the others are deactivated. Don't even know what that's called.

Cheers
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: Kipper4 on October 17, 2019, 01:23:16 PM
Switching schematic as is. For reference.
See page 9
In the tapflo  data sheets


https://electricdruid.net/datasheets/TAPLFO3Datasheet.pdf
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: EBK on October 17, 2019, 02:19:59 PM
Quote from: Kipper4 on October 17, 2019, 01:21:35 PM
Push buttons matrice?
8switches in a row. When one is activated the others are deactivated. Don't even know what that's called.
I think they are called radio push buttons.  I looked into it briefly while I was figuring out how I wanted to build my aion Blueshift (Dimension C clone).  Someone actually did go ahead and use a set for a pedal, but I cannot recall who.  They are generally modular, with a crap ton (or crap tonne in metric) of contact options and lockout options (I think that was the term for preventing two buttons at once).  Someone else will have to fill in the details I am forgetting, including where to get them.
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: diffeq on October 17, 2019, 02:40:58 PM
Quote from: EBK on October 17, 2019, 02:19:59 PM
Quote from: Kipper4 on October 17, 2019, 01:21:35 PM
Push buttons matrice?
8switches in a row. When one is activated the others are deactivated. Don't even know what that's called.
Someone actually did go ahead and use a set for a pedal, but I cannot recall who.  They are generally modular, with a crap ton (or crap tonne in metric) of contact options and lockout options (I think that was the term for preventing two buttons at once).  Someone else will have to fill in the details I am forgetting, including where to get them.
That was bluebunny (https://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=36392.msg1154104#msg1154104).
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: bluebunny on October 18, 2019, 03:52:03 AM
Quote from: diffeq on October 17, 2019, 02:40:58 PM
That was bluebunny (https://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=36392.msg1154104#msg1154104).

Guilty as charged!  Found them lurking on eBay - can hunt them down again if you need, Rich.
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: Kipper4 on October 18, 2019, 12:41:34 PM
Ooooh yes please Marc. Have look at your purchased list for me.

I like the idea. I wonder what the button options are?

Cheers mate
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: bluebunny on October 18, 2019, 12:59:11 PM
Will drop you a PM, mate.   :)
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: Kipper4 on October 18, 2019, 01:12:30 PM
Cheers Marc
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: agalos93 on November 20, 2019, 07:37:23 AM
Kipper, can you pass the last version of your schematic?

I'm gonna do it on eagle and making a PCB for it and i want to build it, it looks so nice!

I've been learning the past 6 months and i already built two differents designs and i'm trying to learn as much as possible, i'm so new in all of this

Can't wait to make the latest desing, try to fit in a PCB and  order that PCB to some China website, get it and build it.

Thanks in advantage!
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: agalos93 on November 20, 2019, 09:06:40 AM
Quote from: ElectricDruid on October 01, 2019, 03:58:53 PM
We want sound samples! We want sound samples! What do we want? SOUND SAMPLES! When do we want them? NOW!!   :icon_twisted:

Hello Tom!, i've come across you again :)

Look like your famous STOMLFO chip is used again in a siren

Just wanna say hello and thanks again with all the help in this months :)
Title: Re: Trikbox StompLFO Digi dub siren
Post by: Kipper4 on November 20, 2019, 04:24:18 PM
You can build the schematic in reply 6 should work fine.
Fairly confident that's what I had on the breadboard.

You can add a tremulus lune lfo with ramp mod
And send its output to an outside lug of a B10k pot.
Send the Stomplfo output to the opposite outside lug.
Then the B10k wiper to lug3 of the slide pot.

Clear as mud.

Not for commercial use. This is diy.
Have fun.