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Title: Micro Vibe?
Post by: I am the Walrus on March 17, 2020, 10:52:57 PM
Hello. Would this circuit be considered true bypass? Thanks.


(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9G1VF6Z/Voodoo-Lab-Microvibe-sc-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9G1VF6Z)
Title: Re: Micro Vibe?
Post by: imJonWain on March 17, 2020, 11:11:39 PM
Yes.  It's the way Voodoo Labs does their bypass.  I'm sure someone would argue over it though.
Title: Re: Micro Vibe?
Post by: mth5044 on March 17, 2020, 11:19:09 PM
I wouldn't call it true 'mechanical' bypass, but optical bypass. I think it functions very similarly, but a die hard true bypassist would probably say nay
Title: Re: Micro Vibe?
Post by: swamphorn on March 18, 2020, 01:00:52 AM
I hope they wouldn't have an issue with the 300 MΩ off resistance of the H11F1. That said, is there any reason to use optical bypass in a time when 3PDT stomp switches are dirt cheap?
Title: Re: Micro Vibe?
Post by: duck_arse on March 18, 2020, 09:39:34 AM
Quote from: I am the Walrus on March 17, 2020, 10:52:57 PM
Hello. Would this circuit be considered true bypass? Thanks.


(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9G1VF6Z/Voodoo-Lab-Microvibe-sc-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9G1VF6Z)

define your version of true.
Title: Re: Micro Vibe?
Post by: ElectricDruid on March 18, 2020, 06:36:00 PM
Quote from: swamphorn on March 18, 2020, 01:00:52 AM
That said, is there any reason to use optical bypass in a time when 3PDT stomp switches are dirt cheap?

Reliability. Electronic solutions are generally much more reliable than mechanical ones. So we assume the H11F1 lasts longer than some cheap complicated switch that gets stomped on all day.
Title: Re: Micro Vibe?
Post by: willienillie on March 18, 2020, 07:30:55 PM
^ Yeah but there's still a stomp switch, just one less pole.
Title: Re: Micro Vibe?
Post by: Kevin Mitchell on March 19, 2020, 03:58:08 PM
I've gotta admit, I've seen that schematic dozens of times but never acknowledged the coupler at the input  :icon_redface:

That's a neat way to dodge a 3PDT!

Since the input and outputs are shorted when switched/bypassed, it sure seems true to me  8)

-KM
Title: Re: Micro Vibe?
Post by: ElectricDruid on March 19, 2020, 07:26:37 PM
Quote from: willienillie on March 18, 2020, 07:30:55 PM
^ Yeah but there's still a stomp switch, just one less pole.

Agreed. I can't say if a DPDT is a lot more reliable than a 3PDT. Maybe they are. I was only really answering "why use an optical bypass when 3PDT is cheap?". This kind of hybrid half-optical-half-mechanical seems like neither one thing or the other to me and I don't see much point in it.

Quote from: Kevin Mitchell on March 19, 2020, 03:58:08 PM
Since the input and outputs are shorted when switched/bypassed, it sure seems true to me  8)

If that was enough for true bypass, it'd be possible with a SPDT. You also have to remove the loading of the pedal's input when the pedal is off. Here the optoFET off resistance is almost as high as the resistance of fresh air between switch contacts, so it's probably close enough.