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Title: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: deadastronaut on June 30, 2020, 05:26:14 AM
hi guys i have this lfo , works perfectly...

i added a switch to switch between 2 caps for fast and ultra slow...

however the led is very dim when switched either way...but goes very bright momentarily whilst switching

so i dont want to blow the bugger....

im only getting around 2v at the led when switched....so obviously the the led is struggling, hence the dimming...ive even changed R36 1k to a 100r..and still the same...

is there a better hookup point for the led to pulse...??????

i dont want to blow the led as i have it glued in place...but i can tap the led resistor to another point ::)

cheer guys... 8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qv3wFPj9/lfo.jpg)

Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: Rob Strand on June 30, 2020, 05:37:42 AM
The issue is probably the low thresholds set by the Schmitt-trigger.  That's going to make the range of voltages at the output of IC4A lower DC wise.  So what about connecting the LED to +V?     You might then need to add some series diodes to tweak the range of brightness.  It will obviously flip the polarity of the LED relative to the LFO.   Other than that you would need to add a transistor or MOSFET to drive the LED.
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: deadastronaut on June 30, 2020, 05:44:04 AM
cheers rob, i'll put the 1k back in and try hooking it up to 9v....whilst connected where it is on the depth  too...

back in a bit.  8)
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: antonis on June 30, 2020, 05:53:16 AM
Or maybe by lowering R27 Value..
(just a rough thought..)  :icon_redface:
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: deadastronaut on June 30, 2020, 05:56:51 AM
well the 9v didnt work......boo hoo... :-X

antonis, hmmmm wouldnt that mess my lfo up?.....

might be worth a go though i guess.. :)
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: antonis on June 30, 2020, 06:17:11 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on June 30, 2020, 05:56:51 AM
antonis, hmmmm wouldnt that mess my lfo up?.....
As far as it concerns YOUR lfo, frankly, I don't give a damn...  :icon_lol:

More seriously now, I believe it will widen Schmitt-trigger threasholds..
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: deadastronaut on June 30, 2020, 06:18:37 AM
 :icon_mrgreen:  me neither ha ha.....

cool i'll give the 220k  a go then...  ;)
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: deadastronaut on June 30, 2020, 06:36:14 AM
yay top man...100k did it instead of the 220k....

cheers man...... 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: antonis on June 30, 2020, 06:38:55 AM
Well done then..  :icon_wink:

P.S.1
In case LED persists to initial switching high brightness, ulitize a "delay" circuit like the one used for 3PDT switches LED anti-popping..

P.S.2
Academical interest: Can't realize the reason for Rob's suggestion not working.. :-\
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: duck_arse on June 30, 2020, 11:00:25 AM
hardwire C2 between pins 1 and 2, and then only switch in the 47uF. that might stop the light blast.



antonis the hardman might not care, but we do, Rob.
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: deadastronaut on June 30, 2020, 11:12:56 AM
all sorted now ducky.....you have to get up early :icon_mrgreen:

and it didnt turn into a 48 page thread... 8)
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: duck_arse on June 30, 2020, 11:39:27 AM
early? there are some people want me to get up tomorrow instead, just so's I'm on the same day as them.
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: anotherjim on June 30, 2020, 12:24:18 PM
Quote from: duck_arse on June 30, 2020, 11:39:27 AM
early? there are some people want me to get up tomorrow instead, just so's I'm on the same day as them.
You don't have to get up tomorrow, you can just behave like it is yesterday today until it's the proper time for today to become tomorrow.
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: antonis on June 30, 2020, 01:14:34 PM
Quote from: duck_arse on June 30, 2020, 11:00:25 AM
hardwire C2 between pins 1 and 2,

And exactly where is presently located C2..??
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: Rob Strand on June 30, 2020, 06:42:58 PM
QuoteAnd exactly where is presently located C2..??
C22.   duck_arse's idea keeps one cap connected to stop the opamp glitch (good idea).
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: duck_arse on July 01, 2020, 10:26:56 AM
.... 2. wait for it, antonis.


is it now, yet?
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: antonis on July 01, 2020, 10:48:07 AM
I've been waiting for more than 24h searching for C2 in Rob's schematic.. :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: diffeq on July 01, 2020, 11:01:28 AM
Quote from: Rob Strand on June 30, 2020, 06:42:58 PM
QuoteAnd exactly where is presently located C2..??
C22.   duck_arse's idea keeps one cap connected to stop the opamp glitch (good idea).
With centre-off switch, it even allows for a middle, ultra fast, option.
(https://i.postimg.cc/K3KZ82YX/lfo.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K3KZ82YX)
Title: Re: LFO switching led issue....
Post by: duck_arse on July 01, 2020, 11:03:37 AM
well waiting 24h in one of Rob's threads, about leds no less, instead of 24 pages ..... you should thank me.