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DIY Stompboxes => Building your own stompbox => Topic started by: sirdavy on January 27, 2022, 04:51:04 AM

Title: Can I repair this Small Stone EH4800 Phase Shifter that I fried with 18v?
Post by: sirdavy on January 27, 2022, 04:51:04 AM
I plugged the wrong DC plug into my Small Stone and all I get out of it now is very quiet white noise/hiss. I'm fairly handy with a soldering iron, but most of the components are smd...is there any chance I could fix it myself? In the photo you can see there are some burn marks around a component near the 9v socket. It's labelled FB3, which I think means an inductor?


(https://i.postimg.cc/TyGK4sCN/IMG-7218-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TyGK4sCN)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QBbFGqz8/IMG-7219-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QBbFGqz8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZCGBrn3S/IMG-7220-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZCGBrn3S)

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Title: Re: Can I repair this Small Stone EH4800 Phase Shifter that I fried with 18v?
Post by: theehman on January 27, 2022, 05:24:41 AM
Try jumpering the inductor with a wire and see if that fixes it.  It won't hurt anything to not have it in the circuit.
Title: Re: Can I repair this Small Stone EH4800 Phase Shifter that I fried with 18v?
Post by: antonis on January 27, 2022, 09:48:58 AM
In case of fried item indeed is an inductor, one of its legs should be connected to +9V jack where the other one to C19..
(although, 100pF cap seems rather small for such a filter configuration..)
Title: Re: Can I repair this Small Stone EH4800 Phase Shifter that I fried with 18v?
Post by: sirdavy on January 27, 2022, 11:24:24 AM
Quote from: theehman on January 27, 2022, 05:24:41 AM
Try jumpering the inductor with a wire and see if that fixes it.  It won't hurt anything to not have it in the circuit.

I tried this and the LED lights up. I gave the inductor a poke with a pencil and it's broken off the board, leaving the LED lit. No sound coming though.

One of the large through board caps (right in the middle) is a 16v/220uf - any chance it's that? I could swap that one fairly easily.
Title: Re: Can I repair this Small Stone EH4800 Phase Shifter that I fried with 18v?
Post by: sirdavy on January 27, 2022, 11:26:03 AM
Quote from: antonis on January 27, 2022, 09:48:58 AM
In case of fried item indeed is an inductor, one of its legs should be connected to +9V jack where the other one to C19..
(although, 100pF cap seems rather small for such a filter configuration..)

So I should try jumpering from one pad of the inductor to one pad of this cap, and it should leap both?
Title: Re: Can I repair this Small Stone EH4800 Phase Shifter that I fried with 18v?
Post by: antonis on January 27, 2022, 03:15:28 PM
Quote from: sirdavy on January 27, 2022, 11:26:03 AM
So I should try jumpering from one pad of the inductor to one pad of this cap, and it should leap both?

No..!!  :icon_cool:

C19 shunts +9V to GND, forming a LPF with inductor(?) so you don't want to short +9V to GND..
(Consider fried inductor in place of R1 and C19 in place of C13 on schematic below..)

Most possible is some +9V break around fried item resulting into power interrupted supply..

(https://i.imgur.com/1bgGAd2.png)
Title: Re: Can I repair this Small Stone EH4800 Phase Shifter that I fried with 18v?
Post by: sirdavy on January 28, 2022, 05:04:32 AM
Thank you. What would you say, in this circuit, would be most vulnerable to 18v, and might have blown?
Title: Re: Can I repair this Small Stone EH4800 Phase Shifter that I fried with 18v?
Post by: antonis on January 28, 2022, 05:27:18 AM
There are some items, especially SMD polarized caps like 47μF one right next to 1N4001 diode, which can't withstand the 18V supply..
Title: Re: Can I repair this Small Stone EH4800 Phase Shifter that I fried with 18v?
Post by: sirdavy on January 28, 2022, 06:25:45 AM
Would jumpering across this capacitor - and other components - make the pedal show signs of life?
Title: Re: Can I repair this Small Stone EH4800 Phase Shifter that I fried with 18v?
Post by: antonis on January 28, 2022, 06:36:59 AM
You have the nasty habbit to indiscriminately jumper items.. :icon_lol:
(it might be OK for some series items but a prospective disaster for shunt ones..)

Probably 47μF cap is a reservoir/filter one, meaning it's placed across +9V & GND..
By jumpering fried item AND that cap you effectively short your power supply (it smells like smoke..) :icon_wink:


P.S.
In case of that particular cap is damaged, it's most possible to be "open" (out of the circuit) so there is no working issue..
(possibly a small supply voltage ripple and/or hum but let it be for the moment..)
Title: Re: Can I repair this Small Stone EH4800 Phase Shifter that I fried with 18v?
Post by: sirdavy on January 28, 2022, 06:49:04 AM
Thank you, Antonis. I will get my multimeter out and go around testing the components that way instead.