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Hey Ton,
Let's see some better info than EH has to offer about what the controls on this new beast do.
Can't even see the names on the knobs in this pic...
(http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/images/flhoax.jpg)
Whatdayasay? 8)

Thanks
~ Charlie

p.s. Damn... I want one. :D

OOOO, OOOO, OOOO!!

Is it true that this thing can do thru-zero flanging? If so, I MUST have one at that price!

That thing looks insane!  :o

it can even go through 2 differently located zeros in one cycle  ;D

WOW!!  :o  Do you have soundclips? I'm dying to know what this thing sounds like.

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So totally cool!!!! 8) 8) 8)
Gotta have one!

Thanks for the links, p.t.!

~ Charlie

I better start maaking some money, V smart Name.....

;)

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Yes, it DOES do thru-zero flanging!  It's an amazingly amazing pedal.

BTW, I bought two - does anybody want one?  New in box with plastic bags and manual, $185 shipped in the US.  I will ship internationally but you'll need a new wall-wart to power it.  (sorry for the spam!)

Matt Farrow

Hey Matt,
I'll be happy to take your leftovers...

Seriously tho, I'll email you. 8)

Thanks!
~ Charlie

no infos for clonos...

... but, it wont be long now. ;D

~ Charlie

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thank you, Ricky (blushing me...)



soon come:
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Ton:

You're a genius.

But then you knew that. :-* :-*

Ricky

Puretube,
more.....more......    :)

Cheers, Mike

Very....very....nice!  8)

Wasn't exactly sure what through-zero flanging meant, searched it on Google - found this:http://www.studiorecordingengineer.com/ftopict-1050.html Notice anyone familiar? ...He's everywhere. ;D
Too bad they didn't actually answer his questions.

gloryboy: found clips?

Through-Zero Flanging is a special kind of flanging - basically, all the action in the flange is when the delayed signal is only offset from the straight signal by a small amount.  The best flangers have wide sweep ranges, meaning that the minimum and maximum delay times available are very far apart.  The A/DA Flanger has (supposedly) a 35:1 sweep ratio.  I've had one of those for years, and it sure does do a WICKED flange.

The secret to TZF is that the straight signal is also delayed by a small amount - let's call it 10ms.  As the flanged signal sweeps, its delay time might sweep from 5 or 20 ms (these delay times are probably all wrong, Mark Hammer would know better)  A "normal" flanger can never have less of an offset than (in our example) 5ms, the lowest available delay time from the swept delay.  But in the TZF, the flanger can have an offset of ZERO, when the swept delay time is 10ms.  The real key is that it goes THROUGH zero, and passes out the other side.  That's where the real tweezy pinched wicked bits happen.

Can the Flanger Hoax do TZF?  You bet your bippy it can.  As Ton says, since both the delays can sweep along different points of the quadrature oscillator, they can go through zero once or twice per trip of the LFO.  Cool?  Heck, yes.

BTW, I have two more of these puppys in the shop if anyone is interested.  Email or PM me.

Matt Farrow

mp3s & a review here:

http://modezero.com/flanger-hoax.htm

  Sorry if I'm playing catch up, but I didn't see...
  When do "I" get one and , Where do I get one, what amount do I pay for one ?
  I was about to pick out a Flanger to want, I think I have that part done tho now.

Same here.  I'd like to try one out.

Speaking of, what happened to its creator?  I haven't seen him on here in a while.

This does sound incredible Ton, I think it needs the guitar to do it justice. Will it take a line level signal I wonder?
Stephen

Quote from: TELEFUNKON on October 07, 2005, 03:12:40 PM
gloryboy: found clips?

stereotypy?

Quote from: petemoore on October 07, 2005, 04:31:48 PM
  Sorry if I'm playing catch up, but I didn't see...
  When do "I" get one and , Where do I get one, what amount do I pay for one ?
  I was about to pick out a Flanger to want, I think I have that part done tho now.

I think street price is supposed to be $199.99...

Quote from: A.S.P. on October 07, 2005, 06:38:13 PM

Quote from: TELEFUNKON on October 07, 2005, 03:12:40 PM
gloryboy: found clips?

stereotypy?

Quote from: notchboy on October 07, 2005, 04:15:59 PM
mp3s & a review here:

http://modezero.com/flanger-hoax.htm

Yep, I found em! Thanks to mode zero. Here are some more clips. Warning! These are very "out there", and LOW quality.  :icon_mrgreen:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=f4dee71a907c8fbd4f673877c69d3e48&threadid=1052591

Great job puretube! I now have to convince my wife that I truly NEED this thing!  :icon_mrgreen:

Puretube- Since I moved to Phoenix and no longer in KC, Mo. where I got such great deal(musiciansfriend), I suppose Ill actually have to buy this one!!

I think it may be a while before the Hoax reaches England. I phoned Rockbottom in Croydon who hadn't heard of it and a thick sounding youth said "if yer wan(t)  a flanger ma(t)e we go(tt)a second hand Ibanez!!!!!!!!!!!!, and Macari Music Exchange in London who told me it may be on the next shipment several weeks away!..........nothing changes!
Stephen

 
  One serious batch of knobs :icon_eek:
   :icon_wink:
 
 

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Thanks Ton, not for a while though unfortunately, I have a large hospital bill to pay! Have you taken any autumn photos yet? The leaves on many trees here are changing colour, and as the sun is shining today it may be the best day for photography. We always take our dog to a large park area with woods on Sunday.
Stephen

Ton, any hope of a rack mount version of this beast? I just don't have the pedalboard real estate for such a behemoth - it's hard enough to find a place to plant my board at most gigs! It's also the type of effect I like to keep within arm's reach for twiddling. Maybe a deluxe rack version with envelope control, yeah that's it! 8) It wouldn't look as cool, but…

Kerry M

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If Mike Matthews can release the Bi-Filter, and people buy them (they *are* buying them, aren't they?), then how could a rackmount Flanger Hoax be competely off the table?

On the other hand, there are a number of items that probably *could* have been expanded to rackmount size with additional features (Holiest Grail, P.O.G., Microsynth), but never were, so the presence of a small handful of rackmount products is no clearcut omen.  Certainly the modulation and signal routing possibilities in the Flanger Hoax (and would a rackmount versin be the "Biggest Hoax"?) deserve to be used...for good, not for evil.

Quote from: puretube on October 09, 2005, 12:48:03 PM
don`t ask for details, but the CV + expr.-ped. inputs will be very poweful...

PT, I'm not askign for details about the Hoax, but on the question of CV and expr pedals in general...... there seem to be FAR too many different control pedals!! A couple of my boxes have waht I like to cal "real" CV inputs, that is to say, 1/4 mono jacks that expect to see a , well, Control Voltage say 0 to 10V. But Moog has a TRS pot system, Boss has a pot (different arrangement) andBehringer different again.... do you have any thiughts on what should be there?? Personally I'm keen on actual voltage as a control, because it makes it easier to run LFO and audio signals in for modulation..

Quote from: Paul Perry (Frostwave) on October 09, 2005, 09:02:50 PM
Personally I'm keen on actual voltage as a control, because it makes it easier to run LFO and audio signals in for modulation..

Certainly works well for a certain big blue box on my pedal board! ;D 8) It can transform an old scratchy volume pedal and a 9v battery into a dangerous weapon! Of course an old gym sock can do this as well, but this sounds much cooler!

Kerry M

Quote from: A.S.P. on October 10, 2005, 02:35:19 AM
Paul: note the "plus"-sign there:

QuoteCV + expr.-ped. inputs

Like many things in this world, I can SEE it, I just don't know exactly what it means.
I know what I HOPE it means, but...!

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Anybody yelled: "Tube-Hoax" ?  -  I heard that ! 

?{was it: (true-) "stereo"}?
:icon_wink:

puretube, I hope you don't me asking, but what is responsible for the hiss coming from the Flanger Hoax?  Was a compander not used in order to reduce the cost, or is there some other problem?  Any chance that the pedal will be revised to fix this?

No, it includes a special circuit which induces hiss if there's an R in the month! ::) ::) ::)
Stephen

Actually, there once was a flanger with a built-in optional pink noise generator:

http://aulos.calarts.edu/pipermail/music-dsp/1997-December/019897.html (http://aulos.calarts.edu/pipermail/music-dsp/1997-December/019897.html)

There you go - the rack version of the Flanger Hoax could be called the Vacuum Cleaner of the Gods...

Quote from: notchboy on October 10, 2005, 02:06:38 PM
puretube, I hope you don't me asking, but what is responsible for the hiss coming from the Flanger Hoax?...

did you hear hiss, or did you read hiss ?

I heard the hiss myself.  It swells in and out with the sweeping of the delay, or if you tweak the delay by hand, it gets worse as the delay time gets shorter.  As you adjust the blend towards dry, the hiss goes away, so it's only in the wet signal.

It's an incredible box, but the hiss is a big problem IMHO.

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=259060

Hiss is out of my range of hearing. I only hear the ringing. The constant ringing. Somebody please make it stop.

RDV

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