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Title: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: Danny G on May 04, 2006, 10:29:02 AM
My Crybaby has finally bitten the dust (still works, kinda).  Will be buying a new one and TB-ing it and alot of other stuff.  I have some 3PDT switches laying around and would like to use one of those to avoid having to buy anything else.


Anyone have a drawing/layout for the wiring with a 3PDT?


Thanks!!!
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: syndromet on May 04, 2006, 10:56:58 AM
Depending on what wha you got
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/s.castledine/greenfuz/wah.html

Just wire it up like a 2pdt, leaving one third of the switch blank.
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: Danny G on May 04, 2006, 11:00:14 AM
So with the poles/tabs/whetevertheyare oriented like this

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Do I leave the bottom row empty, or the row on the right empty?

(Sorry for being a tard, heh)
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: syndromet on May 04, 2006, 11:25:54 AM
Leave the right row empty.
And check out the beginners forum to learn how the switches work.  ;)
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=965712ed6f7b5919ab037fe747b0913b&topic=970.0
Everything in stompboxbuilding becoms a lot simpler when you learn what a switch really does
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: petemoore on May 04, 2006, 11:49:24 AM
  The DMM'll tell you which way...that and switching it, just see which way the signal goes from a middle lug...should go from middle to one side, not the other...switch it...then it'll go to the other side and not the one.
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: $uperpuma on May 04, 2006, 11:57:17 AM
with the extra set of poles you could aadd an led...easy add if you're already changing the switch... a buddy of mine had me put one on the back of his wah since the rocker obscures most of the front...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/superpuma/SRWAHLED2.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/superpuma/SRWAHLED1.jpg)

just more fun things to do :)
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: aron on May 04, 2006, 12:31:08 PM
I thought you had to mod the rubber part to work with the 3PDT? Does it fit right in? I never tried it on my Cry Baby.
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: Paul Marossy on May 04, 2006, 01:16:17 PM
QuoteI thought you had to mod the rubber part to work with the 3PDT? Does it fit right in? I never tried it on my Cry Baby.

I have 3PDT switches in 5 of my 6 regularly used wah pedals. The switches work in all of them, without messin' with the rubber stops. I usually have to use no washers/nuts at all between the switch body and the exterior of the enclosure. Sometimes it can be a challenge to get it to be in between being too easy to switch and not easy enough. For the ones that give me trouble, I use cork pad (or two) in place of the felt pad that makes contact with the switch actuator - I like doing that much better than messin' with the rubber stops.  :icon_wink:

Quotewith the extra set of poles you could aadd an led

I have thought about doing that, but I have concerns about popping noises. Have you had no popping problems after adding an LED?
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: Danny G on May 04, 2006, 01:21:07 PM
Just got a red Snarling Dogs wah at GC for $75.

I was torn, I was looking forward to modding the hell out of another Crybaby.  But I got 10 days to try it to see if I want to keep it.


I will, of course, take it apart and see what all the swicthes/knobs do.  heh!
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: Paul Marossy on May 04, 2006, 01:28:29 PM
QuoteJust got a red Snarling Dogs wah at GC for $75.

A schematic would be interesting to look at.  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: formerMember1 on May 04, 2006, 02:55:56 PM

Quotewith the extra set of poles you could aadd an led

QuoteI have thought about doing that, but I have concerns about popping noises. Have you had no popping problems after adding an LED?

Yeah, $uperpuma, i would like to know too if you have pops with the LED, i have tried everything to get rid of the pop but it always pops. 

With just the wah engaged, it pops the first time i step on it, then after that it never pops. But with a fuzzface or any distortion pedal after it, it pops everytime i turn it on, i tried everything to stop it and no luck....

Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: Paul Marossy on May 04, 2006, 03:45:18 PM
Quotei would like to know too if you have pops with the LED, i have tried everything to get rid of the pop but it always pops. 

With just the wah engaged, it pops the first time i step on it, then after that it never pops. But with a fuzzface or any distortion pedal after it, it pops everytime i turn it on, i tried everything to stop it and no luck....

I seem to remember reading about this. I think that is why I have never added a LED to any of my wahs as a matter of fact.  :icon_frown:
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: Danny G on May 04, 2006, 05:13:23 PM
I'll diesct the Whine-O-Wah and report back my findings
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: Paul Marossy on May 05, 2006, 10:23:56 AM
QuoteI'll diesct the Whine-O-Wah and report back my findings

I'd be interested to see if it's not just another CryBaby copy.
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: $uperpuma on May 05, 2006, 10:47:22 AM
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=44109.0 (http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=44109.0)
This worked for me.  no pop... but the sound of the physical snap-back on the new switch is kind of loud in "bedroom" conditions... I'm sure you can't hear it in a live sound type setting
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: Paul Marossy on May 05, 2006, 11:40:09 AM
Hmm... that AMZ Led Popping article gives me the confidence to try adding an LED indicator one of my wah pedals.  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: 3PDT for Wah stomp switch?
Post by: tiges_ tendres on May 05, 2006, 12:02:38 PM
Quote from: Paul Marossy on May 05, 2006, 10:23:56 AM
QuoteI'll diesct the Whine-O-Wah and report back my findings

I'd be interested to see if it's not just another CryBaby copy.

I had a whine-o-wah plus, one upon a time.  It had 3 EQ settings and a gain boost switch.  The throw on mine wasn't as trebly as a cry baby, and the sweep was very uneven.  I have no idea whether it has anything to do with the cry baby! :)