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DIY Stompboxes => Building your own stompbox => Topic started by: Toney on June 14, 2006, 09:32:59 AM

Title: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: Toney on June 14, 2006, 09:32:59 AM
 I was looking back through some old posts and I stumbled upon a great sounding 80's drive designed by Phaeton.
Here's the original thread............scroll down for soundclips.

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=41835.0 (http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=41835.0)

Sounds like a worthy build, don't you think?
So here it is.....



(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/stm88/BigHareV1p.png)

And the schem...

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/stm88/big_hareschem.png)





Need to go into high gain pedal mode with this one; take care to keep lead lengths short ... it can occillate...perhaps shielded ins/outs too if it's an issue.

Enjoy  :D


Title: Re: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: MartyMart on June 14, 2006, 10:23:57 AM
Nice, I dig the soundclip definate "80's rock" thing !  :icon_lol:

Question:  just wondering why you reversed the C_B_E and put the collector furthest from the 9v strip ?
I would have had it at the top, emiter and ground connections at the bottom ...  :icon_wink:

MM
Title: Re: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: Toney on June 14, 2006, 10:35:28 AM

I like em tight..... layouts too.

I did this last night after too much coffee.

It just came together that way...oh, I think I saved one line by squishing it this way.
Title: Re: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: phaeton on June 15, 2006, 12:02:45 PM
Excellent work!

I have that "I feel special" glow because someone vero'ed one of my hacks  :D

"Nice n tight" is definately the case here.  Have you built it on vero yet?  I'm curious how it turned out for you.  I drew up a speculatory vero attempt on graph paper, but I think yours turned out much better.  :icon_biggrin:  What program are all you guys drawing these up with, btw?

For the record, I've always considered slapping a 3-band Baxendall in between those two stages, but......time...work..etc...

:icon_mrgreen:





Title: Re: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: Toney on June 15, 2006, 07:01:05 PM

Program= microsoft paint + brain + coffee
Title: Re: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: phaeton on June 15, 2006, 11:21:09 PM
That's a lot of drawing, then.  If I remember MSPaint, that is.
Title: Re: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: mydementia on June 24, 2006, 12:04:37 AM
Hey guys - I vero'd one of these up tonight - SWEET 80's rock out tone - definitely.  My SPST doesn't seem to do anything.  In the schematic, it's referred to as the 'squisher' - it's adding two LED's...so I expected a softening of the clipping and more drive...am I missing something with this one?  Anyone else built one?
Mike

Oh yeah - I like 'em tight too! :P
Title: Re: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: phaeton on June 24, 2006, 07:49:52 PM
Quote from: mydementia on June 24, 2006, 12:04:37 AM
Hey guys - I vero'd one of these up tonight - SWEET 80's rock out tone - definitely.  My SPST doesn't seem to do anything.  In the schematic, it's referred to as the 'squisher' - it's adding two LED's...so I expected a softening of the clipping and more drive...am I missing something with this one?  Anyone else built one?
Mike

Oh yeah - I like 'em tight too! :P

Turn the drive and volume knobs all the way up.  Max it out, and then flip the SPST.  You'll get a tad more distortion, but it will mainly give you the 'illusion' of a tighter, more sustainy sound.

:D
Title: Re: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: Toney on June 25, 2006, 06:02:38 PM

Outstanding- we can call it verified, I haven't had a chance to build one myself yet.
Will soon.
Title: Re: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: mydementia on June 25, 2006, 10:47:54 PM
I tried diming both gain and level pots and engaging the switch - definitely tightened up the tone and cut the volume a TINY bit.  I used my Bassman Ruby (400mW of pulverizing power...into a monster 2.5" speaker...) for this test.  I'm not sure how to try this on a 'real' amp with other effects...maybe its own loop channel...

Fun and simple build - thanks Phaeton!!!  Definitely verified.
Mike

Title: Re: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: phaeton on June 27, 2006, 11:51:00 AM
If you want more effect out of that switch, put in some lower-threshold diodes, such as 1N4001, 1N4148s or even *gasp* Ge diodes.  In that order, it will get progressively more compressed and more saturated, and the volume level will come down more and more.

Glad y'all like it  :D
Title: Re: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: Baktown on August 10, 2007, 05:16:18 PM
I'm confused about the switching of the diodes.  The vero layout calls for a SPDT, so where does the middle pole of the switch go to?

Sorry about the newbie question, but I did try to figure it out on my own.

Axl Bundy
Title: Re: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: Toney on August 10, 2007, 08:40:31 PM

Hi if you look at the layout, the switch's two lugs connect at points marked "Switch a" and "switch b"..that's all there is to it. It's a SPST... oh i see I 've written SPDT on the layout. Ha, ok well just use a SPST or connect as marked.
This one is a lot of fun. Good on you for reviving it.

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x203/smr65/Big_Hare_V1_p.png)
Title: Re: VERO LAYOUT...the Phaeton Big Hare.
Post by: Baktown on August 10, 2007, 11:44:59 PM
I see!  LOL  I was thinking I was missing something!  Really, it was a test, wasn't it?  To see if anyone noticed!

Thanks forthe help, and I look forward to conversing with you more as I'm quite sure I'll have LOADS of questions...

Rock on!

Axl Bundy