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Title: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: MannequinRaces on April 28, 2009, 12:09:09 PM
Hello all.  I checked the Wiki for info on stocking my bench with IC's but didn't find any.  I was wondering, since there are tons of IC's available, which IC's are common in noise making pedals.  I'm looking to build pedals that are similar to the Wolf Computer, Glitch Computer, Fuzz Factory, and some of the more crazier DBA pedals.  Here is the list of IC's that I currently own:

LM555
LM556
TL071
TL072
NJM2043D
CD4049UBE
741

Thanks for the help/suggestions!
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: aron on April 28, 2009, 12:31:44 PM
Well, some of those don't use IC's so I would suggest trying to figure what it does use first, then compile your list.
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: MannequinRaces on April 28, 2009, 12:39:34 PM
Roger that.  It looks like the Fuzz Factory uses a 78566, looks like the Wolf Computer doesn't use any IC's, not sure though about the others.

Any ideas then on how to research IC's to use?  Any basic starting points?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: doug deeper on April 28, 2009, 12:44:54 PM
the fuzz factory is transistor,
here are all the ics used in my ic based pedals.
glitch computer
njm386d/4013cd/ua741cd
pitch pirate
njm386d/pt2399/tlo72 (or what ever duel opamp i have a lot of)
clarinot
njm386d/pt2399
and thats that.
its not so much the chips used that make things wild or noisy, just finding new ways to use them.

Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: aron on April 28, 2009, 12:48:04 PM
You start with the projects you want, then you compile a list. Then you look at other schematics to figure out if there are others you need. Then you look at the data sheets to figure out if they are similar so you can consolidate some of the parts.
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: MannequinRaces on April 28, 2009, 12:56:13 PM
Quote from: doug deeper on April 28, 2009, 12:44:54 PMits not so much the chips used that make things wild or noisy, just finding new ways to use them.

That's a good way to put it.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: MannequinRaces on April 28, 2009, 01:00:18 PM
Quote from: aron on April 28, 2009, 12:48:04 PM
You start with the projects you want, then you compile a list. Then you look at other schematics to figure out if there are others you need. Then you look at the data sheets to figure out if they are similar so you can consolidate some of the parts.

Easy enough.  Do you have a place you like to go to look at data sheets?  Maybe something like this one http://www.datasheetarchive.com/?

Thanks for your patience.  Your help is very much appreciated!
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: MannequinRaces on April 28, 2009, 01:05:27 PM
Quote from: doug deeper on April 28, 2009, 12:44:54 PM
the fuzz factory is transistor

I thought the Fuzz Factory used an IC based on this schematic here: http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/fuzzfactory.htm

Is the schematic wrong?
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: Dave_B on April 28, 2009, 01:08:43 PM
It was a joke.   :)
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: jacobyjd on April 28, 2009, 01:09:10 PM
LOL...oh man, when I saw that, I was like, "but...but...the FF is a fuzz face derivative...WTF!?"

...Then I noticed the date at the bottom of the page  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: biggy boy on April 28, 2009, 01:10:29 PM
Did you notice the date at the bottom of that link?
April 1 !! :icon_wink:

Glen
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: MannequinRaces on April 28, 2009, 01:23:28 PM
Quote from: biggy boy on April 28, 2009, 01:10:29 PM
Did you notice the date at the bottom of that link?
April 1 !! :icon_wink:

Glen

That bastard Dano!  I didn't even scroll down that far!  :icon_redface:

So does anyone have a link to a real Fuzz Factory schematic? 
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: The French connection on April 28, 2009, 01:53:52 PM
Quote from: MannequinRaces on April 28, 2009, 01:23:28 PM

So does anyone have a link to a real Fuzz Factory schematic? 

Don't waste your time, it sounds like cr4p! ::) Build a silicone fuzz face with all the mods (voltage sag and bias...) and if you want it to fart put a feedback loop momentary switch: take the output back to the input with a pot between if you wish more control...It will oscillate and fart like crazy and you're gonna be able to tune the pitch with your guitar volume/tone control...Plus you're gonna have a fuzz that can sound descent at low setting.

Dan
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: MannequinRaces on April 28, 2009, 02:17:14 PM
Quote from: The French connection on April 28, 2009, 01:53:52 PM
Quote from: MannequinRaces on April 28, 2009, 01:23:28 PM
Quote from: biggy boy on April 28, 2009, 01:10:29 PM
Did you notice the date at the bottom of that link?
April 1 !! :icon_wink:

Glen

That bastard Dano!  I didn't even scroll down that far!  :icon_redface:

So does anyone have a link to a real Fuzz Factory schematic? 

Don't waste your time, it sounds like cr4p! ::) Build a silicone fuzz face with all the mods (voltage sag and bias...) and if you want it to fart put a feedback loop momentary switch: take the output back to the input with a pot between if you wish more control...It will oscillate and fart like crazy and you're gonna be able to tune the pitch with your guitar volume/tone control...Plus you're gonna have a fuzz that can sound descent at low setting.

Dan

I'll take that into consideration!  So use this is a starting point: http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/fuzzface/fffram.htm ?
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: jacobyjd on April 28, 2009, 02:20:01 PM
good idea.

Also, for some of the mods that Dan was referring to, check this out: http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/FuzzLab/byocfuzzmods.htm (http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/FuzzLab/byocfuzzmods.htm)
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: MannequinRaces on April 28, 2009, 02:29:03 PM
Quote from: jacobyjd on April 28, 2009, 02:20:01 PM
good idea.

Also, for some of the mods that Dan was referring to, check this out: http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/FuzzLab/byocfuzzmods.htm (http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/FuzzLab/byocfuzzmods.htm)

Great!  Thanks for the link!
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: The French connection on April 28, 2009, 02:32:58 PM
Quote from: jacobyjd on April 28, 2009, 02:20:01 PM
good idea.

Also, for some of the mods that Dan was referring to, check this out: http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/FuzzLab/byocfuzzmods.htm (http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/FuzzLab/byocfuzzmods.htm)

Yep! That's what i got in mind. I've done that and it works good and sound better than the FF ;). If you want to make noise you should also consider the uglyface, a totally different beast...

Enjoy!
Dan
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: MannequinRaces on April 28, 2009, 02:36:01 PM
Quote from: The French connection on April 28, 2009, 02:32:58 PM
Quote from: jacobyjd on April 28, 2009, 02:20:01 PM
good idea.

Also, for some of the mods that Dan was referring to, check this out: http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/FuzzLab/byocfuzzmods.htm (http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/FuzzLab/byocfuzzmods.htm)

Yep! That's what i got in mind. I've done that and it works good and sound better than the FF ;). If you want to make noise you should also consider the uglyface, a totally different beast...

Enjoy!

Will do.  Thank you!
Dan
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: jacobyjd on April 28, 2009, 02:42:47 PM
Something else to consider would be a diode clipping section.

I connected 2 Ge diodes w/ a 50k pot and a footswitch to the pre-volume-control output. more clipping will drop your volume, but can add a cool edge to the sound, along with more sustain...lol...if you really want more :)

you can also creatively place some caps to reduce the high-end fizz to get more of a vintage-y sound. I have a switch for that on mine, too :)
Title: Re: Parts/Bench Stocking - IC's
Post by: MannequinRaces on April 29, 2009, 02:01:27 AM
Quote from: jacobyjd on April 28, 2009, 02:42:47 PM
Something else to consider would be a diode clipping section.

I connected 2 Ge diodes w/ a 50k pot and a footswitch to the pre-volume-control output. more clipping will drop your volume, but can add a cool edge to the sound, along with more sustain...lol...if you really want more :)

you can also creatively place some caps to reduce the high-end fizz to get more of a vintage-y sound. I have a switch for that on mine, too :)

Thanks for sharing your mods!  Pretty sweet!