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Title: Beast Boost
Post by: tca on April 20, 2012, 12:16:55 PM
I've started to play with this circuit which uses a TL431 has a super transistor, it is a beast in fact. Does anyone played with the tl431 to make a booster. It doesn't seem to be very common in guitar stompboxes.

(http://www.diale.org/img/bboost.png)

The first part is just a buffer to drive the tl431.

Any comments/sugestions? Similar projects?

Cheers.

Refs.: http://www.techlib.com/electronics/audioamps.html (http://www.techlib.com/electronics/audioamps.html)
Title: Re: Beast Boost
Post by: rutabaga bob on April 20, 2012, 12:58:54 PM
1)  As always...any sound clips?
2)  Any controls involved?
Title: Re: Beast Boost
Post by: tca on April 20, 2012, 01:02:17 PM
It is just a VERY BIG clean boost. No controls.
Title: Re: Beast Boost
Post by: Bill Mountain on April 20, 2012, 01:38:40 PM
Quote from: tca on April 20, 2012, 01:02:17 PM
It is just a VERY BIG clean boost. No controls.

Like...how big?
Title: Re: Beast Boost
Post by: tca on April 20, 2012, 04:09:07 PM
Well... bigger than: a SHO at full gain, a MPF102 minibooster, ...
Title: Re: Beast Boost
Post by: PRR on April 20, 2012, 07:39:07 PM
With R5=180, current consumption is a beast. If you ever run battery, it should work nearly the same with R5=5K or so.

> first part is just a buffer to drive the tl431.

Actually to drive R3 coming back from a gain of -300, acting like ~~1.5K. The JFET is straining to wiggle against that. This is probably a Good Thing. If not straining it would probably sound a lot like an opamp.

Interesting use of a part specified for other work.
Title: Re: Beast Boost
Post by: tca on April 20, 2012, 07:47:10 PM
Hi PRR, nice to ear from you again.
I've tried with diferent values of R3; R3=5K will work but frequency response changes and a different value of C2 is needed to compensate the change.

Title: Re: Beast Boost
Post by: allesz on April 21, 2012, 06:47:00 PM
Hey tca, I made something similar (the idea came from the same site you linked by the way...) but without the input buffer and with a diode as a clipper on the output (I wanted to make an overdrive). I posted a schem on the other site.
The real funny thing is that it can drive a speaker too.
Title: Re: Beast Boost
Post by: tca on January 24, 2013, 07:00:16 PM
Quote from: allesz on April 21, 2012, 06:47:00 PM
Hey tca, I made something similar (the idea came from the same site you linked by the way...) but without the input buffer and with a diode as a clipper on the output (I wanted to make an overdrive). I posted a schem on the other site.
The real funny thing is that it can drive a speaker too.

Just found your entry on the other side... and forgot to post my headphone amp with the TL431.

(http://www.diale.org/img/headphoneguitar.png)

It partially solves your problems of extra gain, and indeed it can drive a 8Ohm speaker.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Beast Boost
Post by: PRR on January 25, 2013, 09:17:31 PM
Volume pot is wired unusually.... is that how you want it?
Title: Re: Beast Boost
Post by: tca on January 26, 2013, 06:36:27 PM
Quote from: PRR on January 25, 2013, 09:17:31 PM
Volume pot is wired unusually.... is that how you want it?
Yes I know, it makes the tone control working much better than the usual setup for a volume pot.
Title: Re: Beast Boost
Post by: duck_arse on March 20, 2025, 10:17:34 AM
some images lost, so I'll repost what I have.

beastboost.png

headphon.png