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Title: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 02, 2012, 06:53:25 AM
I have a new respect for those that use 1590a enclosures. Today I got a package from Tayda Electronics and in it was parts and my first 1590a enclosures.
I'm always excited to try something new. But my excitement soon turned to frustration as i shoehorned a Phase 90 into it. I finally got it and it was awesome sense of accomplishment to have fit the p90 into it my first try.

I have one more 1590a. What would yall recommend I build next?  (yes, I said yall) :icon_lol:

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07689.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07690.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07691.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07692.jpg)
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: nocentelli on September 02, 2012, 09:13:13 AM
Gutshot or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: deadastronaut on September 02, 2012, 10:23:14 AM
phase 90 in that?....you nutter!. ;D
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: Earthscum on September 02, 2012, 11:12:44 AM
Just so ya know, the new stickers Tayda use peel off the bag (not easily) without tearing, stretching the bag, or leaving gunk behind. Spare, unmarked bags are always nice to have around.

BTW, looks nice! From the outside...   :icon_wink:
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 02, 2012, 11:18:45 AM
I'll have guts later. I forgot to set the trim pot so I have to dive back in later to set it.
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: AudioEcstasy on September 02, 2012, 12:16:28 PM
Kudos on fitting a Phase 90 in there!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: Valoosj on September 02, 2012, 12:50:16 PM
Nice work, but you guys need to check the 1590A thread more often :D
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 02, 2012, 02:32:23 PM
^^That's where I got the layout. I didn't mean to imply I made the layout or anything. The post there said he never boxed it though. Unless I missed a post where he did.
I even had to trim part of the jacks and change some of the electros to tantalum to lay em down to fit.

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=64752.msg712697#msg712697
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 02, 2012, 02:45:22 PM
Congrats Mike!!  ;)

I attempted that very build a few years ago and sadly could not get a good PCB transfer.

Maybe it is time to revisit this since I am a bit wiser now!  ;D

Thanks for the inpsiration!!
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 02, 2012, 02:52:31 PM
Thanks Greg.
I had to modify the transfer in my paint program because the traces were so thin. And it was still a nightmare to transfer because of the small size. It took about 4 or 5 tries. I could email you the modified version if you like ;)
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 02, 2012, 03:26:33 PM
GUTSSSS
Kind of a bad solder job, but it's because some traces were broken and/or too small
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07693.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07694.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07695.jpg)

I had to file the lips down to help make it fit
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07696.jpg)


I think I just found the graphic for the phaser

(http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/user_photos/1231665/8d24584f2ea35e5aba68ba2aca500791_fullsize.jpg)

Or

(http://www.technovelgy.com/graphics/content05/PHASR-phaser-rifle.jpg)
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: Pyr0 on September 02, 2012, 05:38:26 PM
really good job.

Use the 1st graphic  ;D
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: midwayfair on September 02, 2012, 11:08:05 PM
Holy crap. Most of us are happy just to get a P45 into there ... that looks great.

Madbean's got a ton of projects that fit in 1590A, including etches. You might want to look there for inspiration. I really like the Fatpants (Echoplex boost) and Cave Dweller (delay), though the Dweller probably needs to be a PCB to fit.

Somewhere around here Solderman has a "Worlds Smallest Flanger" thread if you're feeling REALLY spicy. I chickened out.

And I've got a perfboard layout for the Shoot the Moon I could share with you. It's a Tremulus Lune with a simplified LFO. Really nice sounding trem. I'm a bit of a 1590A fanatic, so I have a bunch of layouts on my dropbox.

Another fun challenge is a PTP Rangemaster with battery. I know it can be done, but I haven't been able to figure out how ...

If you continue down the 1590A road, there's a few tools that can help the builds go more smoothly and make the boxing a lot easier and more repairable. Madbean has a really nice booklet with links for parts. But in short: Smallbear has enclosed low profile jacks. They give you enough vertical room to put the PCB face side up. Good for builds with trim pots that you need to access more than once. Smallbear also has 9mm pots, which you'll want for builds with more than two controls. (I've gotten three 12mm pots in there, but you have to bend the lugs.) Mouser has small electrolytics, and the Panasonic ones are actually decently priced (about 10c each). Tayda also has monolithic capacitors, which are good for 1uF caps.
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 03, 2012, 02:27:49 AM
Thanks :)   I'm not a big fan of the lune. I prefer the magnavibe sound. That may be what I do with the other 1590a. Do you have any j201 based heavy distortion? I'd like a distortion that has a meaty heavy chug when doing palm muted power chords. I listen and play a lot of crossover speedmetal/punk.

I would love to make David's toejam. I just don't feel like doing the fab work.    ( I can, I just don't want to)
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: Perrow on September 03, 2012, 04:24:10 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 02, 2012, 06:53:25 AM
I have one more 1590a. What would yall recommend I build next?  (yes, I said yall) :icon_lol:

Build a Superfly (http://rumbust.net/tiki-index.php?page=Superfly+in+a+1590A)
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: sgmezei on September 03, 2012, 04:24:16 AM
Wowza thats a nice build. I can't believe you fit a phase 90 in there  :o
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 03, 2012, 04:52:32 AM
Quote from: Perrow on September 03, 2012, 04:24:10 AM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 02, 2012, 06:53:25 AM
I have one more 1590a. What would yall recommend I build next?  (yes, I said yall) :icon_lol:

Build a Superfly (http://rumbust.net/tiki-index.php?page=Superfly+in+a+1590A)

I hate you Pelle ;D     I'll pass on that one. I about lost my mind with the P90


@sgmezei Thanks. I am a pretty awesome guy 8)   Nah, I was just determined to get this done.
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 03, 2012, 08:21:55 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on September 02, 2012, 11:08:05 PM
Somewhere around here Solderman has a "Worlds Smallest Flanger" thread if you're feeling REALLY spicy. I chickened out.

Awesome. I just found it. And I'm in luck with the ICs. About a year ago I was rummaging around in an abandon cabin on an overgrown pecan orchard. And what do i find?? A reverb unit for vocals!!! It didnt work, but it had a mn3102 and a mn3207. I'm hoping that it isn't the chips that are the problem. But I think I just found a use for them. :icon_biggrin: :icon_biggrin: :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 04, 2012, 01:32:39 AM
T-T-T-TRIPLE POST!  :icon_redface:


I just printed the graphic on waterslide paper. I decided against the suicide phaser graphic since I'm going to start selling them. I live in the bible belt and it would be hard to sell it with that graphic.

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07698.jpg)
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: bluebunny on September 04, 2012, 10:07:14 AM
Nice choice of graphics.  Here is my P45 effort on a similar theme:

(http://www.bouron.org.uk/marc/P45-109.JPG)

But not quite so miniature as yours!  (Very impressed, btw.)
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: midwayfair on September 04, 2012, 11:54:03 AM
So .... it's .....

Jim -- he's not dead.
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: bluebunny on September 05, 2012, 09:43:24 AM
Ha ha!  Nope.  Kirk appears to be immortal.  Which probably massages Bill Shatner's Constellation-class ego somewhat...   :icon_lol:
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: Mike Burgundy on September 05, 2012, 04:08:22 PM
Oh boy...Is he gonna start singing again? ;P

Nice work!
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: Pyr0 on September 05, 2012, 04:40:13 PM
So if your into speedmetal, maybe make the Wampler Triple Wreck in a 1590A next then.
Someone on the other forum did.

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/rocklander/pedals/triple-wreck-outs1-med.jpg)

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/rocklander/pedals/triple-wreck-guts-med.jpg)

;D
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: Paul Marossy on September 05, 2012, 04:51:42 PM
Quote from: haveyouseenhim on September 04, 2012, 01:32:39 AM
T-T-T-TRIPLE POST!  :icon_redface:


I just printed the graphic on waterslide paper. I decided against the suicide phaser graphic since I'm going to start selling them. I live in the bible belt and it would be hard to sell it with that graphic.

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07698.jpg)

Ha ha, love that Kirk picture!  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 06, 2012, 09:32:00 AM
Thanks Paul ;D


@pyro    That's perfect. I'll need to order some of them fancy shmancy pots though.
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: Mark Hammer on September 06, 2012, 10:19:47 AM
If people are building these things for themselves, why don't they use 1/8" mini phone plugs and jacks for interconnections?  That should free up a wad of space, not to mention giving you more flexibility with respect to where thngs are placed.  A 1590A should be able to easily accommodate 2 jacks, side by side along the rear skirt, letting yu place the stompswitch close to the front and leaving all that real estate ( :icon_wink: ) in between.
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 07, 2012, 08:06:51 AM
Like I said, I'm starting to sell them.  And I dont have a bunch of 1/8th inch patch cables laying around :P

I'm making progress on the enclosure. The other one is a new finish I'm trying. I got the idea from Darron

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07703.jpg)
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: Pyr0 on September 07, 2012, 02:06:40 PM
Very nice.
How do you get that effect for the one on the right ?
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 07, 2012, 11:20:31 PM
I saw this effect on Darron's site. I used a wire wheel with my dremmel to make the stripes. Then I used a transparent red lacquer to color it. Then I made a rig to make a sunburst finish.

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07704.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07705.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07706.jpg)
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 08, 2012, 07:35:01 AM
IT"S DONE!!!

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07708.jpg)
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07710.jpg)

Here's an update on the sunburst I'll be making a tutorial in the next day or two

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj545/haveyouseenhim/DSC07711.jpg)
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: Morocotopo on September 09, 2012, 08:50:28 PM
Do you people realize this is a disease, right? Called miniaturitis, it´s in the books. Lok for it.

A five knobber! Are you out of your mind?? How am I supposed to turn them?? With tweezers??

:icon_mrgreen:

One question: if you have a bunch of 1590a pedals side by side on the pedalboard, how do you stomp on them without turning two or three at a time? Really thin pointy shoes?

I´m currently trying to figure out how to fit 9 knobs, 3 toggles, 2 LED´s  and the 3PDT without using my mom´s cake pan for a box... and no, no 9 mm. pots allowed.
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: amptramp on September 09, 2012, 09:50:56 PM
Quote from: Morocotopo on September 09, 2012, 08:50:28 PM
One question: if you have a bunch of 1590a pedals side by side on the pedalboard, how do you stomp on them without turning two or three at a time? Really thin pointy shoes?

You have to wear winklepickers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winklepicker

I have seen a variation of these where the toe is curled around backwards like something you would see in a mediaeval woodcut.  The only people I have seen wearing them were Italian street gangs in Toronto in the 1960's.
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 09, 2012, 10:13:53 PM
^^haha.   Maybe that's why Gearmanndude wears those pointy snakeskin boots  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 10, 2012, 11:48:41 AM
 :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: I just showed it to a buddy at radioshack that happens to be a treky and he flipped. He probably wants to start playing guitar just so he can use it   LOL    I dont think he even knows what a Phase 90 is. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: First 1590a build. AHHHH!
Post by: haveyouseenhim on September 14, 2012, 10:03:54 PM
Just sold the P90 for $120 ;D   I'm gonna have to beam up another one because that sold fast. ::)