whats a good stompbox for direct recording?

[strassercaster]

i have marshalls and mics and a couple line 6 pods.  Now that i build pedals i am wondering if there are some stompboxes that work well direct in? I tried a real Klon Centaur and it was ok , a tube screamer ,boss sd-1. all worked ok but i wasnt all that excited. i am almost done with a runoffgroove thunderbird cant wait to try it out. i guess ill need a speaker emulator as well any suggestions for a nice one? now that i have a wife and kids i record less often and late at night. i am burnt on the line 6 seems plasticy .

has anyone used a thor or thunderbird straight into protools ?I have never been 100 percent happy micing my marshalls . Even with great mics and preamps its good but not as good as the live in the room tone and feel. i used to do both i split my signal and ran the line 6 and miced the marshall in another room. i know i could buy one of dozens of amplitude style programs but i want to try with a foot pedal that will work live as well.  I am slammed with aold units. and a heavy day job  schedule at the moment but really want a good hard rock  marshall tone with a gain pedal even a clean fender or vox  tone as well.Are any of the joyo amp in a box pedals good for this? I heard the thunderbird dorect recording and liked it . I think a good speaker emulator would help give it a spongier feel ? Also do any speaker wmulators help recreate the punch that you get from a mic moving the air?  Thanks in advance .

[GibsonGM]

I've never, ever been able to do a guitar > stompbox > line in to any degree of satisfaction.  Every time I try it, it sounds totally artificial to me.    The only exception to this is if I use something like my Digitech RP-3 into USB, as it offers amp/cab sims that are fairly realistic, but that's DSP.  But 'dry', dist. only?  Blah.  I think you need the speaker moving the air to get a decent tone...

Just my 2 cents!  Maybe someone else has a simple way to do it...I've not found one yet...

[strassercaster]

Thats what I figured . There has to be a good amp in a box that sounds good direct into recording right ? ha ha.

[GibsonGM]

Well, don't get discouraged - I know a lot of guys do just what you want, with cab sims etc...I was hoping someone would come in and give you some better advice than my "I can't stand it!", ha ha!

There is another recent thread going on this, I think....scroll around...

[roseblood11]

Many of the overdrive / distortion pedals from AMT have very good built-in cab sims.
Or put a cab sim after one of the pedals from runoffgroove.com, or any other of those FET-based pedals, like BSIAB2, Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret, Gallileo, whatever... Or use just the distortion pedal and add a digital cab sim.

[karbomusic]

You'd be far better off by placing the cab SIM in the DAW such as an impulse response VST taken from a real cab. That will be much better than trying to emulate it on the way in.

[Hatredman]

You'd be far better off by placing the cab SIM in the DAW such as an impulse response VST taken from a real cab. That will be much better than trying to emulate it on the way in.

I agree with that, but if you REALLY want to go the analog way, try this:

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=70445.0

[strassercaster]

You'd be far better off by placing the cab SIM in the DAW such as an impulse response VST taken from a real cab. That will be much better than trying to emulate it on the way in.

I agree with that, but if you REALLY want to go the analog way, try this:

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=70445.0

Thanks Tagboard just put up a vero layout for this circuit . I guess ill make one of these and try it for kicks.It would be nice to build a direct recording gain box and I still have to try my THunderbird out .Thanks again

[deadastronaut]

i tried that sim, pretty good, but never boxed it up...

i was recently looking at a mooer trescab...seems pretty cool going by demos...