Boss CS-3 - Switching Issue ??

Started by HOTTUBES, September 10, 2014, 09:21:18 PM

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HOTTUBES

I have a BOSS CS3 that has a delay when you engage the affected circuit ...
The LED comes on as it should , but the audio is delayed for a second or so .

When you turn the comp. OFF , it works 100% , its only when you turn it ON ?




Thanks for any Help !!


GGBB

Boss effects use JFET switching, which has a deliberate but usually very short delay to avoid switching pops.  I suppose it is possible that if something like a capacitor is partially failing in one of the JFET switches, the delay could be extended.  Here are the goods on JFET switching: http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/bosstech.pdf.  If you are going to try to fix it, you'll need to find a CS-3 schematic.  Sorry I don't have any specifics for you.
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HOTTUBES

Ok , so i replaced the caps responsible for switching in the CS3 with new ones of the same values , 220 pf & 470 pf  in C11 ,12,19,20 .
But i still have a long wait for the audio to come in etc ...

Any other ideas ...

Thanks for any Help !


GGBB

Check your voltages around Q4 - off, on, and during the ramp up to on.  Gate voltage should rise to Source level when turned on.  I'm only guessing, but I suspect C16 is failing which could slow the rise (I think).  That's where I would look anyway.

I'm going by this schematic: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2371510004_63132d9b22_b.jpg
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Thanks Again for your Help !!
I will check and report back ...

HOTTUBES

Quote from: GGBB on September 12, 2014, 02:57:26 PM
Check your voltages around Q4 - off, on, and during the ramp up to on.  Gate voltage should rise to Source level when turned on.  I'm only guessing, but I suspect C16 is failing which could slow the rise (I think).  That's where I would look anyway.

I'm going by this schematic: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2371510004_63132d9b22_b.jpg



GGBB .... Thank you very much for your help !!
I figure a salute from Borate is in order !!  lol







I removed the C16 cap from the board to check it , and it would not measure up on my DMM , so i installed a new cap of the same value , and it now works fine , no lag in the audio when you switch it ON or OFF !!

Thanks again for your Help !!!!

GGBB

Cool!  I'm stoked that I actually figured one out just from the schematic.  :icon_biggrin:
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Yep , you called spot on !!
Very Cool ~ !