Dallas Rangemaster clone: Various questions

Started by pedlar, November 19, 2015, 01:13:09 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

Cozybuilder

That looks better.

I'm no fan of the protection diode wired to either ruin the battery or the circuit if it goes first. IMHO its far better to place a 1N5817 Schottky in series with the supply source and accept the 0.2V drop. If power is connected backwards its blocked, no fried battery, no fried circuit components.
Some people drink from the fountain of knowledge, others just gargle.

mac

QuoteI'm no fan of the protection diode wired to either ruin the battery or the circuit if it goes first. IMHO its far better to place a 1N5817 Schottky in series with the supply source and accept the 0.2V drop. If power is connected backwards its blocked, no fried battery, no fried circuit components.

I like a series Schottky too,
and since it has a small on resistance, I add a big cap after it to have a sort of polarity protection RC filter.

There is a mosfet protection at Geo, iirc.

mac
mac@mac-pc:~$ sudo apt install ECC83 EL84

R.G.

Quote from: mac on December 15, 2015, 12:45:27 PM
There is a mosfet protection at Geo, iirc.
Yes, there is: http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/mosswitch/mosswitch.htm
and:
http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/mosswitch/mosswitch.htm

The economics have changed a little since 1999 when the first protection article was written. The P-channel TO-92 MOSFETs now are about $0.40 to $0.70, so they're a bit cheaper, but N-channels are dramatically cheaper, down around $0.10.

Both the MOSFET and transistor solutions can have significantly less voltage drop than even a Schottky, but not as low as a sacrificial reverse biased diode.
R.G.

In response to the questions in the forum - PCB Layout for Musical Effects is available from The Book Patch. Search "PCB Layout" and it ought to appear.

Cozybuilder

I use the BS-250 P-channel MOSFET protection on a lot of builds- its just a few mV of supply drop, well worth it.
Some people drink from the fountain of knowledge, others just gargle.

pedlar

(Thanks for the above tips on protection!)

No real questions this time, just thought I may as well keep this thread updated until I complete the project.  So, here are some pics of the circuit laid out on a breadboard.




I have yet to put a guitar signal through it.  So far I have just been checking what voltage I am getting from the collector (to ground) with each transistor (Ideally they should be getting approx -7V.)
It looks like the NKT275 will be the one most likely to give the original sound.  I can get it to -7v without too much adjusting of the two biasing variable resistors.  I got the OC44 to about -7.2, but both resistors are pretty near their limits of what is ideal for this circuit.  I do have the option of using a higher value boost pot (25k instead of 10K) to get the OC44 working, so I will try that too.  Again, all my information is from here: http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/rangemaster/atboost.pdf