I need help with image reversing. Frustfration meltdown...

Started by BillyJ, October 12, 2003, 07:30:30 PM

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BillyJ

Well I just spent my whole day, like an ass, checking out a million fonts and sizes and so much stuff I am sick to think it is all a big lame waste.
I made a whole page of words for me to try out with lazertran so I can label these plain boxes.
Of course it doesn't dawn on me until I am finished that the image needs to be reveresed....
What the heck can I do?
I have tried a program called "Print Key' but it turns everything into a choppy mess.
Can anyone guide me through this software or ANY software that will let me capture what I have done at the same resolution and reverse it?
If this was a big dumb waste how can I redo it correctly????
Please help me out with this one folks it has me more frustfrated than my first project!!!!
What does everyone else do????  
:cry:  
Thanks

stylus

photoshop, however if its vector i cant help. but if its rasterized send it to me and ill have it back to you backwards.
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BillyJ

:shock:

Er um. I've no clue about vector or raster but if your game to check it out I would be happy to send it to you.

bwanasonic

What program did you create the type with? If you use windows, the paint utility that comes with windows can flip the image. If you used a program like  Word it gets a little trickier.

Kerry M

stylus

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BillyJ

Kerry it was word....Is there a trick still though?

ExpAnonColin

You could try the following:

Get the text on your screen, all of the text, the whole shebang.

Hit "Print Screen".

Open Paint.

Hit "Control-V".

You'll see a copy of your whole screen.  Take the selection box tool and select around the part you want (the document screen, with your text).

Hit "Control-C".

Close the current document in Paint, don't save.

Go to file->new.

Hit "Control-V".

Then, go to rotate, and rotate accordingly.

Hit save... and kabam.

-Colin

BillyJ

Thank Anon but no joy!

Do I need to save it as a certain type or mess with setting or some such?
Man you would think it would ne problem...

bwanasonic

Quote from: BillyJThank Anon but no joy!

Do I need to save it as a certain type or mess with setting or some such?
Man you would think it would ne problem...

Where exactly are you encountering a problem? I just repeated the above steps myself . Save as a .bmp and bring it back it to word for printing.

Kerry M

BillyJ

The end result whether printed from Paint or Word is choppy.
Where there were fine lines forward there are now choppy bad looking ones in reverse.
I am saving it as a24-bit bitmap.
Should I save it some other way.
i have been just cutting and pasting from Paint back into word.
Is there another way?
Thanks.

Peter Snowberg

Try anon's method again, but try hitting ALT-PrintScreen instead of just printscreen.

It sounds like you could use a more capable image editing situation. I just looked quickly at Tucows and found these:

http://www.tucows.com/preview/194884.html  (Shareare, good for 30 uses, so don't quit the program unless you have to)

http://www.tucows.com/preview/194902.html (adware)

Things are going to be chunky until you can either work in postscript, or use an image editor at high resolution. If your printer is 600 DPI, you want to work on files at 600 DPI. If I'm getting film output and I'm not working in postscript, I'll try to work at 1225 DPI or 2450 DPI if possible. That results in HUGE files which aren't necessary for home work, but the lines are smooooooooth. 600 is more than good enough for anything we're doing around here.

-Peter
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Paul Perry (Frostwave)

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found this by searching for
reversing word image print
in Google. I don't understand a word (sic) of it, but looks the goods.
Good luck!

BillyJ

Man I am so lame. What is a search engine?
Iwll have to go look that up on google later :O)
Thanks guys. I am not sure what I would do without you. Apperantly I would just sit here blank faced staring at the screne.
Man guys thanks. I am really sorry that it never dawned on me to use a search engine.
I iwll check out these leads today.
Just for curiousity what do you labelers out there use for most designing and such???
I don't mind learning yet another sofware program but would like to learn just one that I can follow through from start to finish or close enough.
Thanks again for all the patients with me.....

BillyJ

Nothing is working.
I am even trying to use post script software now....
I don't even know whjat that is....
I want to ditch this whole project and try some program that I can do these labels all the way with.
So what would be a good progam to do simple labels with from start to finish?
Thanks!

Peter Snowberg

Going from start to finish inside one program will make life easier for sure.

Try any shareware or freeware or adware paint program.

Work at 600DPI. A 3/4 by 1/2 inch label should be a 450 x 300 pixel file and that will eliminate the jaggies. You'll need to use very large type sizes and then print the results at actual size.

MS Paint should have left the 't' off of the name.

-Peter
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sfr

I'm not sure what lazertran is - but if it's a decal paper, and if you can run it through a photocopier, then try this - print out yr designs as positives, take them to kinko's, copy them onto a transparency, and then copy the transparency backwards with a white piece of paper onto your lazertran.   that's how i used to get reverse images for exposing screens for screen printing before i had a computer.  some copiers ever have a button to flip the image like that.
sent from my orbital space station.

stylus

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BillyJ

I have been sorted I think but sfr that is the best damn idea I have heard in a long time! Sometime sit is hard to beat the simple stuff.

Stylus. My email was full this morning so I think I must have lost what you sent. Could you try to send it again?

Thanks you guys it looks like I may finish a pedal soon.....I mean back here with more questions and frustration once I get to the next step LOL!

Thanks again!!!!!

stylus

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BillyJ

Oopps. Ok got it! I got's confused :O)


Thanks you are the MAN!!!!