Belton Brick question, 2H vs 3H (Am i missing something?)

Started by ShadSunsCrash, September 28, 2021, 10:19:13 AM

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ShadSunsCrash

First off im pretty sure i have a firm grasp of the differences between the 2H and 3H. But everywhere i look i see people saying they arent interchangeable. Looking at the pinouts of the 2h vs the 3H pins 1-6 are identical. So why couldnt i just use a 3H and add a stereo 10K to control the 3H's extra 4 pins and set the decay time accordingly?

I would more likely use the extra four pins with a couple fixed resistances on a toggle for a short and long decay like the EQD Levitation. Or maybe use them for a hi-damp/lo-damp with an extra cap and resistor to set the lo-damp side frequency like the VFE Springboard.

Again, i just dont see for the life of me why a circuit designed around a fixed decay 2H brick couldnt use a 3H with the very small extra step of adding a means to control the decay of the 3H.

So is everyone else just repeating something they heard since they dont personally understand it or am i overlooking something glaringly obvious??

Fender3D

If you're going to connect each pin with wire to PCB, then you can swap 2H with 3H.
The "glaringly obvious" difference is in pin position respect chip case.....
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ShadSunsCrash

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Quote from: Fender3D on September 28, 2021, 01:22:26 PM
If you're going to connect each pin with wire to PCB, then you can swap 2H with 3H.
The "glaringly obvious" difference is in pin position respect chip case.....

Right, this is what i was thinking all along! Whats happening is several people have read that its "not interchangeable" without understanding what the original guy meant when he said that. So in other words its not interchangeable IF you plan on using someone elses pcb designed around a 2H and intend on mounting the brick straight to the board. Those people have then gone on to give advice/answers to questions that implied its not compatible with circuits designed around the 2H. Youd think after reading some of these things that the Bricks are internally completely different. In reality its exactly what it says on the tin (and by tin i mean datasheet), a 2H with the ability to control decay time internally.

I appreciate the clarification btw! From now on its the BTDR 3H's for me. If i dont want internally adjustable decay then ill set it and forget it. Man made fixed resistors for a reason.

EDIT: Nice avatar btw, im a big doom fan, just finished replaying all the classic Quake releases also lol.

Fender3D

Actually Banzai sells 2H higher than 3H....
3H is more versatile, and you can use different resistors values, I mean for each gang of the potentiometer, for further reverb types
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