Switched capacitor phasers?

[ElectricDruid]

I will need to ponder this a bit, but it might be that a DDS NCO in a PIC would drive the PWM inputs directly and have the pulse widths fall out naturally; triangle or nearly-true sine modulation for free.

It'd be nice, but I doubt we'll be so lucky. What are you suggesting, exactly?

If you use the PIC's NCO, the problem is jitter. I'm going to see how bad that is for a phaser when I try a prototype with the MULTIFLANGE chip that uses that technique.
You can avoid the NCO jitter if you use the PWM modules, but then you only get frequency division, so the frequencies get sparser and more steppy as you go up. With an NCO, that's the other way up - the jumps are largest for the smallest increments and you have good resolution for large increments. But for division, each frequency is *fixed* with no jitter, so no noise is introduced like that. There are benefits and costs to both methods, as usual...

More specifically for this project, the frequencies are going to need to be relatively high. For best filtering of the filter clock, we should probably aim for the 100:1 ratio of clock:cutoff. So for a phaser sweep from 500Hz to 5KHz, we'd be looking at 50KHz to 500KHz. That's roughly the range the Flangelicious NCO+LFO chips use, which is why I'd thought to use one of those for testing, but we'll see how that goes!

[R.G.]

It's not a fully baked idea, of course. Yeah, NCO will have jitter, but I was speculating that since the thing that matters with switched caps and resistors is the general duty cycle more than evenly timed pwm events, as long as the frequency is high enough, individual jitter might not be a problem. I haven't been through the math and background enough to be certain of that; it just seems right.

[amptramp]

The Paul Nelson phaser:

[Mark Hammer]

Not to take anything away from Paul's work and diligence, but it is a switched-resistor design, similar to the MXR unit, not switched capacitor.  Many thanks to amptramp for posting the schematic and clearing that up.

[tworedsquirrels]

There was  a phaser that used a MF10 in the Babani book Practical Electronic Filters
https://www.worldradiohistory.com/UK/Bernards-And-Babani/Babani/299-Bishop-Practical%20electronic%20filters.pdf
Page 99.

[PRR]

Welcome.

> a phaser that used a MF10 in the Babani book

Cute. Worth condensing to a single file.

https://i.postimg.cc/TTcdYXTJ/Bishop-p99.gif