Hi-resolution photos

[aron]

Well, it seems to me the idea of a photo library (although it does exist in some forms) is not ready to happen here.

There's a lot to be learned from pictures of how other people did their work.

[bobbletrox]

I think photos would be a handy visual aid linking schematics to something a little more real.  Photos would be a great starting point for drawing your own PCBs too -you'd be able to get an idea of what you're aiming for.

ALSO: People are well within their legal rights to distribute photos of PCBs...after all...they payed for the damn things.  If the designers don't like it, they can always put goop on their boards.

It's almost like an artist never wanting anyone to see their artwork incase someone else copies their style.

[Peter Snowberg]

How about photos of pedals that already have their schematics published by the manufacturer? I have a friend who is an actual IP attorney I can ask about specifics.

I agree that there's a lot to be learned from looking at how others build their devices. (component selection, etc.)

Take care,
-Peter

[Paul Perry (Frostwave)]

I don't think anybody could claim to be making a parody of a pedal.

Not consciously, no.  :oops:

[javacody]

Doesn't fair use also apply to educational uses?

Aron, I think this is a great idea. I would like to see how to make my pedals more abusable, if you know what I mean. I am not planning on selling pedals for a living. I do this for the pure enjoyment of making them, and the fun of playing through them. I won't be stealing revenue from anyone, because I am never buying a pre-made pedal again either way (except for maybe used on Ebay).

[smoguzbenjamin]

Well if people are making money off of a certain design, then no don't post them. It'd be unethical. What I would vote 'yes' for is things like stuff allready out in public like some of the schemmo's at tonepad and ggg. Also out-of-production pedals would be OK to post, I should think.

I like looking at pictures of pedal guts, and builds that other people make. Sometimes it's really inspiring and it makes you wanna build that thing because 'that guy' made it look and sound so cool. I think you get it

[BillyJ]

Stop the bluff..
Folks no lawyer is going to show and do anything.
Has it ever happened before?

Nonsense!

[smoguzbenjamin]

It's also ethics we have to consider here :roll:

[D Wagner]

Hey Pedal Fiends,

To add fuel to the fire, I have some VERY high resolution scans of an old EH MicroSynth.  It is both boards, both sides.  

The only downside is that the files are large.  I scaned them at something like 750 dpi, but I had to shrink the picture because it wouldn't open on my computer.  It is still huge, but manageable.

Any one want to host the pics?

Drop me a line at datilderek@excite.com.

Derek

[Peter Snowberg]

Stop the bluff..
Folks no lawyer is going to show and do anything.
Has it ever happened before?

Nonsense!

Bluff? Uhhhh... No.

Has it ever happened before? I.P. attorneys defend I.P. every single day of the year and they are very highly paid. Did you see where I mentioned I have a friend who is one?

Nonsense? See the above response.

When they're nice, they just ask you to cease and desist. If the attorney has a rabid client, the game is often to use up your financial resources in hiring your own lawyer to defend your actions; valid or not. It's a game played every day in the U.S. If you are charged with giving away information that hurts the future of a product, be prepared for litigation.

It's a VERY lucrative area of law. Unless you're volunteering to pay for legal fees and you have just won the lottery, accept it's a touchy area. You simply can't say how people will react. You need to be very careful when it comes to I.P.

Please feel free to do as you like on your server.

-Peter

[BillyJ]

Aron why even start a thread like this!?

The ethics shit around these parts is enough to make on want to create a forum that these silly ass rules do not apply too at all.

I understand and respect the wishes to protect those that are helpful memebers but it should have never been.

There should never have been favours for anyone, not RG, Jack, Peter, Me, ZVex, Aron, no one!!!

The only people that really benefit from all this nonsense are the companies that can simply afford to buy your pedal and reverse it.
Poof! the have a clone on the market the next week.
No one around here is going to do that damnit!
People around here will make one for themselves.
The big companies are not going to come here and take some teen aged kids word for how a circuit is supposed to work.
Not if they have intentions of cloning and competing.
They simply buy one and reverse it.....duh!

Ok besides having a wild hair up my ass today and looking to stir some shit (hey I say what I feel. Not always right but I am not afraid to be wrong or stand corrected so have at it!) can you Peter or anyone point to an example of these IP lawyers coming within a mile of anything even bearing any resemblance to this situation?

I doubt it and here is why.....
You can take a picture of any godamnned thing you wish excpet perhaps minors and it is nothing more than a photo or art!

Someone..... anyone!!!  show me an example of a picture of the insides of a product sold to the public that is illegal to posses or post or host.
Not gonna happen!!!!!

Did it ever cross anyones mind that possesion is 9/10th of the law.
If I own a pedal I can take photos of it from any damn angle and post it wherever the hell I want.
If you don't want people to look and take picture than I think you need to have them sign an agreement or contract of some kind.
To tell me I cannot take a picture of something I own is so gadamned stupid I cannot even belive I am hearing it.

Sorry but I think this is nonsense and if no one can put some examples of the illegal pictures of commercial proiducts sold to the public than I say it is more like bullshit!!!

So let's all cut the bullshit!!!!
Anyone got an example of illegal pictures that do not involve minors or the goverment security!?

I won't hold my breath......


Oh shit I just found out that you can't take a picture of your cars engine without violating IP law!!!!

It is nonsense and it is quickly turning to bullshit but I have no doubt that the powers that be will kill it no matter what the truth is!!!!!!

OK I am going to go crawl under a rock while everyone takes a stab at me.
Have fun but I do ask to keep the insults to a minimum.
I am just entertaining thoughts and ideas!
I do not feel like defending my age, intelligence, or otherwise.
If you feel the need please send me PM.
I do have a great amount of respect for this place and the people here.
I feel we are all grown up enough to have a debate without personal attacks.

Now if I can just ignore this thread I could might actually get something done :O)