jazz guitar - cool effects?

Started by vdm, March 29, 2004, 02:56:35 AM

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vdm

anyone have ideas on some pedals that are good for jazzy tones. ive started playing in a jazz ensemble and find i'd like something to spice things up at times - and i have a few distortions and booster type pedals - but im looking for something different for interesting clean tones, or a nice solo tone..

any ideas?

trent

gtrmac

A compressor, analog chorus (Small Clone) and delay (PT-80) could be useful.

gez

Bill Frissel and Eivind Aarset (he's in the member's list) are the real big pedal-heads of jazz (though you'd probably loose your gig at the Holiday Inn if you were doing this sort of stuff!).

For a while I used a Boss Hi-band Flanger with the rate up and resonance down.  Not as obvious as the ubiquitous Chorus, which everyone seemed to use in the 80s, and it had a nice woody tone to it (well, with my pickups it did).  

Nowadays I just use a guitar lead (make your solos interesting by playing something interesting).
"They always say there's nothing new under the sun.  I think that that's a big copout..."  Wayne Shorter

aron

Try an octave down pedal. Also delay, chorus, envelope follower :-)

vdm

thanks guys,

im building a blue box currently, but i think i'd get kicked out if i brought it in ... heheheh...

but that will at least give me a general idea of octave down.

ill probably throw together an orange squeezer some time soon and see how that goes.

as for chorus, i cant say im a big fan, but ive only really been accustomed to the crap marshall digital amp effects chorus... then again that whole dfx thing is pretty crappy...

thanks for the ideas guys

trent

Ansil

hmm for a jazzy type sound, i tend to use a clean booster to spank the amp but still get it clean, just punchy.

but thats me

Tim Escobedo

I always liked that classic 80s Pat Metheney sound with digital delay. Unfortunately, I can't really pull it off myself.

I also like my "dirty jazz" pedal. One of my first from way back around the late 80s. It's just a crappy BJT boost with so much neg AC feedback and low input Z that it's got this kind of muffled mild boost sound with just a hint of nasty edge on it.

Nasse

Good spring reverb maybe. I have never been happy with my strat single coil "jazz" style tone (I cant play jazz but just played melodies over some jazzy christmas song backing tracks). Once fooled with resonant lowpass filter as tone control, and got interesting tones. Dunno if that works with band context. Or that filter just did the job with my small 8" practice amp
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Ge_Whiz

I have used a neat trick from the 'Guitar FX Cookbook' using a combination of light overdrive or compressor, rapid vibrato or chorus and a wha pedal (used as a tone control and left in position, not waggled) to give a Hammond B3 organ sort of tone. Very effective if there are two guitars and you want to sound very different from the other one.

jubjub

There's nothing quite like the old chorus ensamble to give your tone a fusion, Andy summers type vibe. Works great on dissonant harmonies. A new-er ce-2 comes close as well. Throw a bit of compresion before it, put it on your tele  neck pick-up and your in flavour country

petemoore

Anything much more distorty than a TS might sound cool for jazz, though distortion is not associated with jazz in 'some' books. I personally don't know when jazz turns into country or R&R, I guess when you see a certain number of refrains and repeditive measures?
 These boosters with character could easily be 'sold' under the guise of 'jazztone'. I like the little Ge devices...a biased 1 transistor amp like Rangemaster or Vox...of course tuned and maybe a input cap switch.
 That and another booster make for nice variable 'clean dirt' settings.
 I have a Boss clone that does a unique tone, sounds like distortion leaking into clean, it makes a big 'attitude change' especially upon hard attack, the clean can be heard coming through for several seconds of sustain.
 Pretty mild is what I would associate a jazz players favorite pedal as being like. Bouncey/with character is what I'd be looking for in terms of attacktone/sustain. I would start with boosters.
 Something Ge something Fet...they all sound cool/different, BJT's like with BC or 5089's maybe in an LPB...
 I like my VOX Treble booster with the little input cap and the low leakage GE in it, going to the Mosfet Boost...those two with TBypass and the guitars volume knob & switch introduces my amp to some new characters it really likes...I just have to watch the taper on the Mosfet Boost volume, it goes up quick toward max...
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Lonehdrider

Hmm, I was going to say chorus or a phase pedal or something, distortion doesn't work at all on my '47 recording king, it howls like a banshee from the feedback if you even think about hitting a distortion pedal or distortion channel on a amp. Its such a fat tone though I'd hate to distort it much anyway. I have used a old MXR phase 45 on it and that sounded pretty cool. Also did try a DOD flanger without much depth to it, that sounded pretty good too. Might have to pull out the rack effect unit just for grins to see what that sounds like. Havn't tried the delay on it, I do have a dod delay, which is rarely used, might give that a shot to see how it sounds.

Regards,

Lone
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