Runoffgroove pedals in a "live" situation

[csj]

I spent the day and half the night recording a bunch of tunes using nothing but pedals built from the Runoffgroove guys.

I say"live" because, even though the music was done almost entirely with no overdubs (you'll hear the mistakes), no recording can really give you the feel of the thing when you're doing it live. You guys know what I'm talking about.

Those looking for scooped mid metal mania might want to pass on these. I've uploaded 2 from today...
Yeehaw1 and Yeehaw 2 - I won't need to explain to you why I called them this once you hear them. I'll upload more later but right now I'm toast and I've got to do my real job at 6 am.

2 things...
I took a break and went out to dinner with my wife for a couple of hours and when I got back I found that the singer had made a few overdub, uh "flourishes"... I love the guy but when he does his Elvis Presley schtick it makes me wince.

I wanted to make soundclips which show the pedals in a band setting or at least with some accompanyment (sp?). I've taken a few whacks for not just simply playing a pedal alone. I figure that's what tonefrenzy and ROG are for. I'll pull an all nighter in a month or so with a couple of other musicians and maybe we can do some things that really emphasize each pedal. Right now I'm just sort of sick of the smell of solder and I need to concentrate on practicing a lot more since my playing has tanked over the last couple of years.

Anyway, as for ROG's pedals...I haven't found a clunker in the group so far.

Clay

[csj]

Oh yeah,
before I get into trouble...neither of the tunes are originals.
One tune is an old Bill Haley and the Comets tune and the other is George Jones.

also...don't hit the mp3 link. Use the lo or hi fi link.

I'm done now...I gotta go to sleep.

Keep building guys. And playing. Listen to Tonepoets clips if you get the chance. The guy's playing is a beautiful thing...with a great tone.

take care.

[bwanasonic]

I enjoyed those clips! The singer's *Elvis* thing didn't make me wince, and I liked the harmony vocal on Yeehaw 1. And I simply adore George Jones so Yeehaw 2 was fun. You mention you'd rather be playing Zep, but Robert Plant would enjoy singing both those tunes I bet. Do you we get to guess which pedals you are using? I'm sure you had fun recording them, and I had fun listening to them.

Kerry M

[Ansil]

sounds cool gave me weird flash backs though to when i used to play with a riverbend band [a local band here that played alot of stuff like this] i enjoyed the money from the gigs, but  i always wore some crazy get up to keep my picture from getting around to all my metal and shreder friends and GOD my students at the time would have all quit seing me up  there.

lol i taught intermediate and begining shred and well lets say they would have died seing me with an es335 and a tele clone

[petemoore]

Sounds great, is there a phaze sound Im hearing?
 What Is the octave there?

[csj]

I love it Ansil.
Cost of white polyester jumpsuit with matching cape...$300.
Cost of Elvis wig with hair stacked 8" high...$200.
Seeing Ansil squeezed into the suit and hair doing the Townsend windmill ala "Booger" in "Revenge of the nerds"...need I say it.

Kerry, you're right. "Roots rock" and country; "real" country...go hand in hand and really actually is quite fun to play. Right down Plant's alley I suppose. What I can't stand though is this current crop (last decade or so) of supermodel/GQ "country" superstars mutating the style into pop music. Bad pop music. It compares with rap music on my nausea/vomit meter.
The only good thing coming out of Nashville is the pickers. They still smoke but unfortunately the style's getting a little stale. We need a new Albert Lee; someone who can set a new and different standard. Poor old hapless Danny Gatton.

On the pedals for those 2 songs...
Always on
OS set to max compression.
Mosfet boost
Occasionally on
phase 45
small clone
Overdrive provided by the CMOS 4049 family of stomps at different settings. I'm happier with that family of stomps moreso than the dual opamp family. It seems like an edgier, tighter sound when set up right.
It also seems able to better handle filter eq'ing on the front and back sides without loosing too much clarity like what's happened to me, say with a 4558 (a chip which I'm thoroughly tired of hearing FWIW).
Maybe someone can explain why. I don't know.

Guitar was a Warmoth Strat with Fralins.
Amp was the good old standby 5E3 with 6L6s and steroided up.
Slight reverb added at the board.

Pete,
If you're hearing the phase sound on the shorter demos I thinks that's due to my poor recording techniques, bad soundcard and low bit rate. There are all kinds of...hmmm, "artifacts" I guess, which came out when I recorded directly to my soundcard that I didn't really plan for. Wobbles, squeeks, harmonics, etc.

The octaver is the lowly Bobtavia which I think has a lot of potential. It's no Zach Octane for sure, with all it's variableness and dynamics, but it does 2 things really well...That upper mid/high end Hendrixy splatter when pushed really hard and a very cool piccolo like sound when the gain is backed off and the tone is turned all the way down. A friend of mine who does all that sweep picking arpeggio thing can get it to sound like a harmonica... almost like John Popper from Blues Traveler. It is very cool that way.

Clay

[B Tremblay]

Nice job on the clips!

Which specific runoffgroove.com circuits did you use?

[csj]

Hi B,
I guess I've confused the issue a little.
I'm not too sure on how to credit the sources of some of this stuff.
The OS has Hammer's mods.
The SC and the Phaser came from FP's site I guess.
I accessed them through your site and saved them to a folder that I labelled ROG.

The Bobtavia is from a schem I downloaded in the past. I don't know it's source. It's not a true schem but one of those component type schems with the components layed out instead of symbols. I saw the file on your site and assumed it was from you guys.

What I also used and haven't seen anywhere else are these...
3 legged dog
The double d
Odie
Peppermill
Obsidian (which I guess is Joe D's design which I got also by way of your site)
though I did use the original TSF and another CMOS schem for references. The second one came from a site that had other builds on it 2 of which  I remember being called a Cinnabar and a Phunct-something or other.  I don't know who's site that was or is but I wish I did.
I'm a little confused on whom to credit.

Clay

[Travis]

Cinnabar and Phuncgnosis are Tim Escobedo circuits:
http://www.geocities.com/tpe123/folkurban/fuzz/snippets.html

You are absolutely right, he's got a lot of good stuff.

[B Tremblay]

I'm a little confused on whom to credit.

No problem at all.  Many of the runoffgroove.com sound clips (especially those toward the top of the page) are from other sites' projects, so I understand the potential for confusion.

I'm glad you've enjoyed our circuits!