green ringer revelations

Started by jimbob, May 01, 2004, 02:43:37 AM

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jimbob

Now that i got this thing working-perfed- I messed w it a little and found that it gave a great ringing/octave thing when used on single coil pups on the neck v/s humbuckers anywhere. Also, it helps being pushed a little or alot-either way.. i used tube distortion--sounded great. Pushed it with a fuzz and sounded great as well. For being such a simple  build it gave me a little trouble--basic errors such as wrong part values/poor soldering joint/s. Works great now though. I read in the past there has been a few problms with the ringing/ghost sound going away and i had this problm as well. Turned out to be a .047 cap that came loose from a diode and yet there was sound and great sustain--just no octave ring. There is now!
Good luck to all in future g ring builds!
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Brian Marshall

What kind of diodes did you use.

I am building one right now.  I never even really looked at the schematic, just ordered the board.  I would guess that germanium or schotkey diodes would give better results than Si diodes, but who knows.

jsleep

QuoteI would guess that germanium or schotkey diodes would give better results than Si diodes, but who knows.

I have not found this to be true.  Some builders here have said they do think germanuim diodes sound better.  In my limited tests, I really couldn't hear any difference between 1N914 & 1N34 diode pairs.
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petemoore

I never actually got one of these boxed, or tried it at volume or at a gig but...
 I think I had one going a few times, and just recently built one that worked for a day or so I think.
 The Si's provided a great Fuzz Tone sound with a hint of octave in mine.
 The Ge's attenuated more signal, also got into the ring and octave sounds much..more.
 All in all it is a quite tuffer build than it looks on the schematic for me, could be I just wasn't meant to have this one yet....se' la vie.
 Green Ringer is one of my absulfavorite tones too...third times a charm !!!
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strungout

I built one last week, love it. I used 1N60's in it, the 4148 and 4384 I tried muffled the octave up.

I also turn down the tone pot on my bridge pup, the octave up gets very nice and present.

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jimbob

I used 1n914. I thought I read somewhere that these have the best results. Cant remember where after researching. Id experiment but why mess w it when it sounds so great. Its a great build. Its like a fuzz--looks easy but can be a little tricky.
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punkaled

I just built this effect today, and discovered this forum while looking for help on it :)

build went OK apart from getting Q2 and Q3 transistors confused and having to desolder (resulting in some track lifting :\ )

only problem is, when the effect is switched in, it is MUCH quieter than the bypassed signal. I have read somewhere here that this could be due to the diodes? i used 1n4148 Si whiskerless signal diodes, These have the same specs as the 1n914 in my catalogue (which doesnt show much specs) is there a difference? and would i be better off replacing them? or any other ideas how to get a decent output level from this effect?

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