Cornish G2 overdrive...... I don't get it.

[plexi12000]

I was kinda interested in maybe building one of these.  Aware of the name for decades. Some of my fav rock artists have used his various stuff.

I'm asking in a respectful manner....i'm not trying to dis' the guy or anything, i'm just ignorant.... but, if the G2 "is just a Big Muff", as one gent put it,  why is it so

"legendary"?  why is a new one $1,200? - because of "the name"?   

[deadastronaut]

its well worth $1200, its got historical mojo

[slacker]

why is a new one $1,200?

Because that's what people will pay for one. There's a sector of the pedal market who've got a lot of money and don't mind spending it, Mr Cornish can cash in on that because of his reputation for building high quality, bomb proof rigs and pedals for big name musicians.

[plexi12000]

that's what i kinda figured.

[stevie1556]

Don't forget that the pedals include a mojo hand etched PCB! That's gotta be at least £1k!

I'm not saying all his boards have that, but all the gut shots I've seen have had it so far.

[FuzzFanatic71]

I'm sure they are nice, well built Muff clones. But at the end of the day they are just Muff clones. I've built a couple of Muff clones, one to Rams Head specs and one to Bubble Font Russian specs on pcbs from Fuzzdogs Pedal Parts in the UK. No "mojo" or vintage parts. They both sound great in my opinion. Even if I was a cashed up rock star I wouldn't spend that kind of money Cornish is asking for his pedals. 
But a lot of folks do spend that kind of money on his pedals, so he must be doing something right.

[overdriver999]

I don't get it either,there are way way too many pedals that are ridiculously overpriced in the market

[add4]

If you sold your muff clones for less than an things dollars then apparently you haven't done your pricing right. And your communication and marketing are to be improved too.

You have to give that to the guy. Selling the same shitas everyone else, 10 times the price, without the packaging and painting costs. He s a @#$%ing genius. Even Steve jobs didn't get figuresas high as that

[add4]

Imagine for a moment of that guy worked in a normal company. Cornish tomatoes !! Now 50 bucks a kilo. Grown in real earth.  Cornish toothpaste. 35 euros a tube. Clean your teeth.

[samhay]

He charges that much because he can - that's how our brand of capitalism works.

In any case, you aren't so much paying for the circuit in a box, but rather something that was built by the same guy that built stuff for David Gilmour, Pete Townshend, Lou Reed, Tony Iommi, Brian May, Mark Knopfler, etc, etc.
Probably better to think of it as art (maybe the Andy Warhol kind) rather than electronics.

[FuzzFanatic71]

But Roger Mayer has built some great pedals for the who's who of the music world and he doesn't charge stupid amounts for his pedals. They aren't super cheap but at the same time they aren't really over priced. And most of them are original designs too.

[nocentelli]

He charges that much because he can - that's how our brand of capitalism works.

Also it's not a straight big muff clone, the tonestack is different.

[samhay]

Another analogy.
Who has a luthier-built guitar? I do. It cost a lot more than a factory-built guitar of (very broadly) similar specs. I can tell the difference between them (or have convinced myself that I can), but many people probably can't. As a result, I am quite comfortable paying the premium for such a guitar, while others aren't. Yet another camp will happily spend the money to collect said guitar, because they like to collect things, and the rarer something is, the more they tend to want it.

While I wouldn't spend $1200 on a pedal, clearly enough players or collectors (probably mostly the latter these day) think it is a good investment. Rather than vilifying Pete Cornish, I wonder if you should be celebrating the fact that he can make a pedal that desirable - surely it works in our favour if these wee boxes are considered that (in)valuable. In any case, what harm is it doing our community - the schematic is now widely circulated, so there is nothing stopping you from building one for about the same cost as a Big Muff.

[samhay]

He charges that much because he can - that's how our brand of capitalism works.

Also it's not a straight big muff clone, the tonestack is different.

If we are going to split hairs, it has an input buffer too and isn't true bypass.

[plexi12000]

hey, valid points.  if people are willing to pay....no harm!  thanks for the comments-