Fuzz Central Wah Output Buffer?

[formerMember1]

I was wondering if anyone who built a output buffer in a wah, could help me.  I would like to add a output buffer to my crybaby classic.

The part i am confused about is how to wire it to pedal.  
I don't want to build a circuit board,
It doesn't look that hard to do.  :lol:
Thanks  

[Paul Marossy]

I think a circuit board is necessary unless you somehow do point-to-point wiring...

[Fret Wire]

Hilbi very nicely laid one out for you on vero (verified).   Order the vero board from Aron. You can get quite a few small ckts from one board.
http://aronnelson.com/gallery/Grooveyard/wahoutputbuffervero

[formerMember1]

COOL!! just what i needed, thnx  

[formerMember1]

wait a moment. i am still confused about something here. :?

From another thread i posted in i learned, that the output buffer lets you ues a wah pedal to drive a fuzzface and it will wah, without a buffer you can't get a wah sound with a fuzz engaged.  Is this the same kind of buffer stock wahs use instead of using true bypass?  why use true bypass and a buffered output then?

I thought that the whole reason for using a DPDT truebypass switch in a wah was to eliminate the need for an output buffer and have no signal degradation, which i can't stand!  So why build a wah with a truebypass switch if an output buffer will stop signal degradation anyway, along with being able to use it with a fuzzface.

oh boy now i am really confused :roll:
thanks for the help

PS:i would like to get this straight since i am making an order to mouser and small bear within a couple days or so, to build the Axis Face and Axis Wah/Clyde MCCoy.(not sure which one it will end up as yet)

[formerMember1]

does an output buffer affect tone of a wah?

[waldo041]

does an output buffer affect tone of a wah?

the buffer will not affect the tone. it will increase volume a little that is what the trimmer is for if you use the fuzz central layout.

I thought that the whole reason for using a DPDT truebypass switch in a wah was to eliminate the need for an output buffer and have no signal degradation, which i can't stand! So why build a wah with a truebypass switch if an output buffer will stop signal degradation anyway, along with being able to use it with a fuzzface.

the buffer allows you to use both the wah and the fuzz at the same time. if you use true bypass in a wah it will let you use the fuzz when the wah is disengaged, but once it is engaged you are back to where you started. hope this helps.

peace,
waldo

[formerMember1]

thanks that helped.