In your opinion (octaves)

Started by Karmasound, April 20, 2005, 04:03:44 PM

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Karmasound

Which are your favorite ocatves, up and down. Pic one of each maybe include what you think about it.




I've never build one of these so i'm gonna do a little research/poll
thinger thing :!:

petemoore

Nah Gon Do eh
 I like all these octaves at one time or another.
 Only one I never figured out to like lots [with my rig etc.] is the FTM...but I didn't really apply smarts to that one.
 It depends on what I want that second really, for general Octave messing about, I like either SOU or OUSB or TYCHO, which has the 'less octave, heavy FuzzRingMod sound to it that I find quite expressive/explosive/not uncontrollably volatile.
 For the Tycho, I use mostly in combi with a FF 'or'
 Enter Neo Octavia [to my lineup recently], Nice sternly pronounced OctAve, quite reliably, but less dynamic Ring moddy in my case, Does a real good P.H. by J.H. the A#'s [intro] and B to C#'s [beginning of lead] and the lead solo's/rythms come out very well done.
 Then there's the G.Ringer, but I haven't had one in so long...I should build another one...great memories !!
 Then again there's the SuperFuzz...Whew...gnarled Lighning in there...
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

phillip

My personal favorite is the Tycobrahe Octavia...it's an aggressive, gnarly octave.  If you run it a higher voltage it'll clean up and you'll get more octave.  I'm working on one now using a MAX1044 to supply it with 18V (thanks for the help, RG!).  More on that project soon ;)

Phillip

petemoore

FOr simple plug'n play the Tycho wouldn't be my first suggestion, in fact I'd bet there is a variance from unit to unit...I know my unit had alot of variance to it...instead of stating, I'm thinking that the match on the diodes and some of the R's may influence how much octave [other items may also. So it could be my Tycho sounds a bit different than yours, also I use a couple GE transistors.
 I thought of a trimpot on Green Ringer Resistor[s, the two 22k's and 68k's...make one of each variable, for the 'other' 22k make a pot that at full CCW is 16k [or 18k?] and fully CW is 25k or so. Same for the two 68k's [because of my unfamiliarity with the circuits function I'd just do both and see what does what]. Possibly some mod mileage if not more perfect matching of the + and - swings could be had there >?
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

RDV


jmusser

On The ones I've built, I would say the Octave Up Sick Box for all around playing. The Simple Octave Up for high pitched screaming. Octup Blender for synthy sounding octave "everywhere" on the fret board. If you want "extreme ear bleeding up octave mayhem" nothing beats the Digital Octaver fuzz, period! Down octave I've built have been accidental, and not really advertised on the particular circuit. The Crash Sync has a wonderful tracking octave down at the correct setting. The Ugly Face has a decent octave down. RDV has a good sample on the Shoctave Harmonizer. It a really good down octave. For my money, build the Crash Sync, because you get all kinds of other weirdness to go with your octave down, and the OUSB. The OUSB isn't the most extreme, but is one of the better univeral up octave fuzzes for all ocassions.
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puretube

E-H POG (I`m not gonna build one, either...  :lol: )

petemoore

Oh yes...Octave Down...I used to own a OC2...
 ShoCkTave Divider is what I use now.
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

aron

I love my Green Ringer and Tyco Octavia. In addition, the Foxx Tone Machine is fun.

For octave down, just buy the little Dano pedal. It's really good.

RDV


brett

QuoteFOr simple plug'n play the Tycho wouldn't be my first suggestion, in fact I'd bet there is a variance from unit to unit...I know my unit had alot of variance to it
Looking at, and measuring, the rectified (aka phase split) signals in the Tyco shows that before they are combined, one is much stronger than the other (I can't remember whether it's the +ve or -ve part that's stronger).  Anyway, that causes lots of fundamental to come through in the Tyco.  In theory, you could have a little volume control on the stronger signal so that it balances the weaker, for more octave and less fundamental.

I can't put my finger on why, but I've never liked the Tyco very much.  I'm currently building the Rambler with a JFET-boosted input.  It's attractive because it's such a simple concept and circuit.

cheers
Brett Robinson
Let a hundred flowers bloom, let a hundred schools of thought contend. (Mao Zedong)

Pedal love

Tyco and Boss oc-2. Tyco has that early Hendrix mojo. Oc-2 is a very nice clean octave down for a pedal.pl

jmusser

My favorite sounding sample is by far the Tycho on GGG, and I really like RDVs Super Fuzz sample also. The Bobtavia sample is awesome too and a real screamer. What I was trying to say to Karmasound is what I thought he'd probably get the most mileage out of in DIY, making his first Octave up or down. A lot of these we make aren't something you could use for every song of a gig. To me, the OUSB & Crash Sync fit that criteria. The Crash Sync to my ears, tracks better on down octave than the Shoctave Harmonizer, plus it can do other weird stuff. The Shocktave is good for only single notes. I have not heard the Rocktave Divider to be able to give an opinion on it.
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LivingDeadPunk

For octave down I really like the MXR blue box from Tonepad with a TL072 chip instead of the 4558 one. It feels like the tracking is more accurate with an Orange Squeezer before it.

For octave up, I use a Fox tone machine built with the GGG pcb but I got a volume swelling problem with this one, it was my third project and I found it pretty difficult. I don't know wether the volume swelling is normal or not, but I found it to be pretty annoying.
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Karmasound

I seems from what yuo all are telling me is...


Blue box for down. I used to own a 0c-2 but didn't really like it. Will the blue box be nice and clean and track well?



The jury is still out on the oct. up. Sice there are so many nice ones. But my criteria is clean no distortion and good tracking.


I'm not sure why i'm getting so hung up. I doubt i'll use them that much :?  8)

But I must complete the pedalboard cirlce of life :P

jmusser

Check out the post on search called "Octaver Q".  Up octaves were talked about on there recently, and "clean" gone over.
Homer: "Mr. Burns, you're the richest man I know"            Mr. Burns: Yes Homer It's true... but I'd give it all up today, for a little more".

Coriolis

From what I've heard, the Bluebox is supposed to be very far from clean...
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LivingDeadPunk

Yeah, the blue box is a mean fuzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, no clean at all  :P  and tracking can be kinda random, the only way I get good tracking is with a compressor and my strat neck pickup.
Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal.

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