Is there a way to make a Green Ringer less subtle?

[ole jason]

Assuming I can get my tweak-o to work I plan on building a green ringer in the next week or two.  From the soundclips I've heard it seems like the ring modulator sound is pretty mild and I'd like to make it more noticeable.  Could I change component values to affect this or should I just go with a different plan altogether for that sound?

[petemoore]

It's cool though, stick a FF in front, then it's Hot !
 I'm about to embark on the tail end of a RM Octavia and stick a Fuzz on it !!
 Fuzz Face is cool cause you get all the 'inbetween' stuff with the guitar volume rollback.

[octafish]

For a cool quasi ringmod try the modulatron by brett. If you search you'll find it. The green ringer is more of an octave up with a mild ring mod sound. Quite a similar design to the RM octavia.

[bwanasonic]

With the Green Ringer you do need to *play to the effect* to really highlite it's ring mod traits. Playing double-stops and bending notes against each-other, especially in the mid-ranges of the neck brings this out. The charm of the Green Ringer is the way it combines fuzz, octave and *ring mod-like* sounds. If you need a box that really excels at any one of these sounds, it may not be the ideal effect, but hit has an interesting personality of it's own.

Kerry M

[Stevo]

Add a fet booster behind it..That is what I did, now I have some gain to it.. I guess like the fetzer valve scheme http://www.runoffgroove.com/fetzervalve.htm now it will sing louder that is what you want I think ....just build it stock and keep going with the booster and now you have a volume knob too..Thanks

[jmusser]

Octafish, do you have the Modulatron schematic? I found the link in search, but it's giving me unavailable, as is the Jethro Dog link.

[Mark Hammer]

The Green Ringer is an octave-up box.  ALL octave-up boxes that use the same type of phase-splitter circuit (Scrambler, Tone Machine, Fender Blender, Superfuzz, etc) yield a bit of sideband product (i.e.,  sums and differences, like a ring modulator) when notes are bent, though some seem to have more of it than others.

On my green ringer, I just stuck a single transistor preamp on the front end of the circuit, and that was able to produce some "less subtle" sounds.  Not my favourite octave up or ring modulator by any stretch of the imagination, but it does sound more interesting when the signal hitting it is stronger.  That could be from some boost within the pedal or from a boost source outside the pedal itself.