Joe's Decade distortion ... anyone built one ? .... Awesome :D

Started by MartyMart, May 15, 2006, 06:28:42 PM

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MartyMart

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=32415.0

Here's the original thread/schem from a year ago, it's taken me this long to get to it !
( sorry Joe )
I have it 90% there, but have the following :

1- lots "o" hisssss
2- 2 pictures of the pot wiring, I've used the one above which seems backwards
3- With pot at minimum ( max ) total cut out of sound, pot's also quite noisey when adjusted.
4- A very wierd bias, as per the schem, Ge NPN at 4v giving a very "hard" sound overall.

Just wondered if anyone's sorted one out ?
Many Thanks,
Marty.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm"
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MartyMart

No worries, just got it working perfectly, had a bad trim pot, one solder
bridge ( miniscule . ) and used J201's
J201's @ 6.6v ( used 50k trimmers )
OC140 Ge NPN collector ( or emitter depending on how you look at it ) @ 4.6v ( tuned in with new 50k trimmer )

Fabulous Joe, great "amp-like" tones using the tone stack and gain controls
from clean through to "edge of breakup" and on to "Big Muff" sounds too  :D
Really great sounding circuit .....
I wish that I had made it a year ago !!  :icon_redface:

MM.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm"
My Website www.martinlister.com

markm


MartyMart

Quote from: markm on May 15, 2006, 06:58:20 PM
Marty,
U got a layout for it??

No, not really, just stuffed in onto a piece of stripboard 10 strips x 28 holes.
It's not a tough one, only three trannies :D
It could be "neater" but it works !
..... quite a few pots though !
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markm

I was just wondering as I have been trying to develop some of my own layouts......
I'm not overly successful yet but, I will be eventually I hope!

MartyMart

Quote from: markm on May 15, 2006, 07:07:48 PM
I was just wondering as I have been trying to develop some of my own layouts......
I'm not overly successful yet but, I will be eventually I hope!

Go for it !!
Check my Joe Davisson "Vulcan" layout in my gallery, against the schematic
You'll see exactly what's going on, I don't "twist" the circuit that much, just
schem from left to right --> stripboard left to right
So long as you make all the connections and cut the strips as you go, it's not
hard ... well if I can do it then anyone can .... right !  :icon_wink:

MM.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm"
My Website www.martinlister.com

jmusser

Marty is this tone on the order of the Vulcan or Blackfire, or a little more tame the those? I must have missed this one along the way.
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markm

Quote from: MartyMart on May 15, 2006, 07:17:07 PM
Quote from: markm on May 15, 2006, 07:07:48 PM
I was just wondering as I have been trying to develop some of my own layouts......
I'm not overly successful yet but, I will be eventually I hope!

Go for it !!
Check my Joe Davisson "Vulcan" layout in my gallery, against the schematic
You'll see exactly what's going on, I don't "twist" the circuit that much, just
schem from left to right --> stripboard left to right
So long as you make all the connections and cut the strips as you go, it's not
hard ... well if I can do it then anyone can .... right !  :icon_wink:

MM.

Well, actually I've been trying to develop my own to etch although, I have traced a couple of the Veros and made
circuit boards with them. In fact, I think one was yours!!
Thanks Marty!!!

Ry

I put an OC44 from Small Bear in the GE position on mine.  It's way more 'open' than with any of the other Ge's that I had sitting around.  If you have the means, I highly recommend it.

Ry

Dave_B

Maybe I missed it Marty, but did you modify the pots like Joe did?
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MartyMart

Quote from: jmusser on May 15, 2006, 09:00:34 PM
Marty is this tone on the order of the Vulcan or Blackfire, or a little more tame the those? I must have missed this one along the way.
It's a little more tame, but it's got a very BIG and open sound, just seems like you have a big amp
when it's on  !!
Sounds like a good Jfet sim & a good fuzz in one :D
Quote from: Dave_B on May 15, 2006, 11:07:11 PM
Maybe I missed it Marty, but did you modify the pots like Joe did?
We did a "trade", Joe sent me the special pot and I sent some goodies ... good old fashioned "Barter" !

Quote from: Ry on May 15, 2006, 10:10:39 PM
I put an OC44 from Small Bear in the GE position on mine.  It's way more 'open' than with any of the other Ge's that I had sitting around.  If you have the means, I highly recommend it.
Ry

The Ge is supposed to be "NPN"  !
An OC140/CV7112 is very close to OC44 but in NPN form, I have a nice one, gain 110 hfe and no leakage in there ...
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm"
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Ry

QuoteThe Ge is supposed to be "NPN"  !
An OC140/CV7112 is very close to OC44 but in NPN form, I have a nice one, gain 110 hfe and no leakage in there ...

Yeah, you're right :icon_redface:.  I must have bought the NPN transistor above the OC44 in the Small Bear stock list and used that.  It was more than a year ago...