dave gilmour noiseless system

[scaesic]

i remmeber reading hear that dave gilmour is now using a new system on hiw strat that uses some sort of device to eliminate hum from single coilse? Something that is installed behind the bridge? or the scratchplate? There was suggestions that it was some kind of ghost pickup?

anyone remembe rwhat it was?

[slacker]

do you mean this?

http://www.suhrguitars.com/pickups.aspx#bpssc

[Satch12879]

Other than EMG pickups and properly shielded cables and outboard gear?

[Ghandi]

david is now using the kinman woodstock set on his blacky.

[StephenGiles]

You know, I just cannot see why folks rave about this guitarist - sounds very ordinary to me I'm afraid.

[Aharon]

We could talk about impecable sense of melody,brilliant bending technique,great tone.......that he can say more with a couple of well placed notes what takes another wanker a flurry of practice scales to show off.......that he plays guitar for one of the best groups in the history of rock and helped compose some of the best known rock anthems of the 20th century..........?
Very ordinary  indeed...........
Aharon

[slacker]

the solo in comfortably numb has made me cry, that's good enough for me.

[Aharon]

...and I thought I was the only "sensitive" one to have done so........................
Aharon

[Roobin]

Hey guys,


Let's not get too wrapped up in the DG's amazing playing...lol.

But wiht the noiseless, I recon that most of his gear has had the PC treatment.

[StephenGiles]

But surely it's all down to individual taste. Personally I prefer Jeff Beck for impecable sense of melody, brilliant bending technique and great tone, Robin Trower for just being Robin Trower and Richard Thompson for being  - well I suppose Richard Thompson.

Pink Floyd does not form part of my life and it doesn't have to of course, but if you like him that's fine.

[Aharon]

Of course it boils down to taste.
A while ago I read somewhere in a forum(maybe this one) somebody ramble on as to "how pedestrian Beatles songs were....."
Aharon

[StephenGiles]

Did you really?

[Aharon]

Imagine that...................

[stumper1]

You know, I just cannot see why folks rave about this guitarist - sounds very ordinary to me I'm afraid.

Ouch!

I was never a Gilmour fan - let alone Pink Floyd - they were cool and all but just not my bag.  Then a few years ago I had to learn several Pink Floyd tunes to play at church (go figure ).  I still never listen to them/him.  His solo work has never done it for me.  But he is easily on my list of favorite players.  Top 5 - no.  Top 10 - probably.

[Plectrum]

You know, I just cannot see why folks rave about this guitarist - sounds very ordinary to me I'm afraid.

I recognised his playing in a few notes on a sam brown record, and a mcartney track (broadway something..?).
His approach to phrasing, composition and often the context itself are, for me "extra-ordinary".

I get the feeling his guitar parts are allways there for the song, and not for the ego.


RE: the topic, his noiseless systems are primrily for live work. The bulk of his recordings are done with stock guitars.

Grant.

[oldrocker]

As my nick name implies I am an old rocker.  My band in the mid to late nineties opened for some great guitar legends.  We opened for Robin Trower twice.  Other greats we opened for were Rick Derringer, Ronnie Montrose,  Frank Marino,  Jake E. Lee and J. Giels Band (Twice).  Even opened for keyboard players like Rick Wakeman and Edgar Winter.  The guitarist in my band was awesome as well.
I saw a video of David Gilmore on On Demand called "Strat Brats" I was blown away.  His approach to playing is just so melodic and his technique is excellent.  You don't have to play fast or hammer on / offs like Van Halen to be a great guitarist.  It's what you play that makes it great.  Watching Gilmore stomp his pedals for all the different sounds inspired me to look up stompbox building and found this message board.  Yes some of his melodic leads made my eyes water up.  Unbelievable.  Are there better guitarists out there?  Yes.  Is he the best out there?  No.  But IMHO he is a great guitar legend and I would've love to open for him some day.

[Eb7+9]

Dave is very much into control - he doesn't play to impress skeptics ... one thing I found really interesting he said in "The Making of DSOTM" is that he sings his solos first - then he plays what he sings ... there's a lot that can be said about this approach - it might lead to playing something that's more widespread digestible and affective rather than shreddies ...

while on the topic of noiseless single coils - those who understand Norton/Thevenin enough to design with it are coming out with coupling approaches that rebutes what some voltage-mode naysayers have been preaching for a long time - it's just a matter of modeling the PU properly and doing the right kind of circuit analysis ... whether the transfer can be made to sound near-identical Spectrally and Dynamically is another matter, definitely an interesting challenge ...

~JC

[george]

Then a few years ago I had to learn several Pink Floyd tunes to play at church (go figure ). 

wow - was the minister giving a sermon on "the evils of rock and roll"?!? 

I've heard a christian say that Pink Floyd stuff has a "bad spirit" (or something) about it.

Did you have to play the songs backwards to reveal secret messages? 

and remember:

"If the band you're in starts playing different tunes/I'll see you on the dark side of the moon"

[stumper1]

wow - was the minister giving a sermon on "the evils of rock and roll"?!? 

I've heard a christian say that Pink Floyd stuff has a "bad spirit" (or something) about it.

Did you have to play the songs backwards to reveal secret messages? 

and remember:

"If the band you're in starts playing different tunes/I'll see you on the dark side of the moon"

5 different songs - 5 different topics.  Not back to back - different days - different services.

If that's the worst thing you've ever heard a Christian say - consider yourself lucky!!

They wouldn't let me play 'em backwards - I tried though.

On the turning away
From the pale and downtrodden
And the words they say
Which we won't understand
"Don't accept that what's happening
Is just a case of others' suffering
Or you'll find that you're joining in
The turning away"

This does belong in the lounge though   Sorry!