Red llama question- not quite right yet

Started by jimbob, July 11, 2006, 03:34:11 PM

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jimbob

I got it working- sort of but it doesnt seem sounds right yet. The sound seems to break up after a strum of the guitar. Any idea what may cause this? Anyone else w the same issue.

Of the changes I made were- 220 uf instead of the 330 uf and a 1n914 instead of the 1n4004, and 120pf instead of the 100pf.

Im using this layout

http://gaussmarkov.net/layouts/layouts.html#redllama
"I think somebody should come up with a way to breed a very large shrimp. That way, you could ride him, then after you camped at night, you could eat him. How about it, science?"

Mark Hammer

Not a single one of those changes should make any audible difference to 98% of all ears.

brad

Make sure the chip is the unbuffered version (should have UBE or thereabouts on it).

A.S.P.

either:
wrong chip (non-UBE);
wrong wiring/PCB-traces, extremely wrong component-values, or pinout-mistake;
faulty input-cap;
faulty output-cap;
non-conductive fuzz-pot;

btw: the 1M resistor at the output is completely unneccessary,
as long as the vol-pot is in working order!
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Peter Snowberg

Breakup typically comes from an incorrectly set bias somewhere. The Llama uses a pair of inverters, and each one sets it's own bias voltage so you shouldn't get and gating from impropper bias adjustment.

I think Brad may have the answer. Does your chip say 4049B or 4049UB?
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markm

Yes,
That UB is very important as I have read that using the buffered version causes problems in that circuit.
Don't know about gating but, it will cause occillation big time!

jimbob

part # 595- cd4049ube mouser

I can now get a decent sound but at the end of the strum of a chord theres a gating breaking up type sound. Damned thing! Its always these simple projects I have problems with.
"I think somebody should come up with a way to breed a very large shrimp. That way, you could ride him, then after you camped at night, you could eat him. How about it, science?"

A.S.P.

is that just the part # you ordered,
or is that what actually is printed on the chip?
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jimbob

cd4049ube is what is actually on the chip
"I think somebody should come up with a way to breed a very large shrimp. That way, you could ride him, then after you camped at night, you could eat him. How about it, science?"

A.S.P.

then swap the output-cap for a different one...
(electrolytic is OK for testing - watch the polarisation!)
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