bsiab2 different transistor

Started by bent, July 29, 2006, 12:37:15 PM

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bent

Brown sound in a box 2

http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=178

It's say in the BILL OF MATERIALS TEXT : "Note:  Experiment or substitute J201 or other JFETS in all positions for slightly different sounds."

Just want to know if anybody try different JFET in different position....and if it does actually change the sound....

thanks

Bent
Long live the music.....

mojotron

There are a bunch of threads where people did just that. If you use the 'search' button you can see what people found out when they tried that. Or pm Ed G - I think he's tried every JFET known to man.

powerplayj

Try all 2N5457 for all positions or a MPF102 in Q3, Q5.
builds completed: boutique fuzz, rangemaster, BSIAB2, PT-80, Tonepad wah, Ross Comp, Axis Fuzz, MOSFET boost, Thunderchief, Big Muff (triangle), Mr. EQ, Dr. Boogey,  Neovibe, Dist+, EA Tremelo, ADA Flanger, RM Octavia
next build(s): ???

bent

thank you very mutch.....can't wait to try it...  :icon_twisted:

bent
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markm

The 2N5457 and MPF102 have less gain and may "clean" up the circuit a bit.
I think they sound good however, I've never used them in a BSIAB.

bent

does the pin-out (dsg) need to be respected, or i can turn the transistor ...?
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petemoore

  Get the pinout from a data sheet ... make sure D/S/G follows the schematic pinout.
  I use perf, and often 'invert' the S/G places on the board, and put the source in the middle of the 3 pin transistor socket.
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

bent

#7
:icon_idea: i want to try 2n5088 but i'm totally not certain of the result...cause it's said collector-emitter-base.... ???
the 2n5088 is NPN amplifier transistor....do you think it will work... ???
if so...witch pin-out should be for matching DSG with CEB....

i'm the kind of guy who like to try several things...and when it's blow up in my face :o, i make my decision... ;D ;D ;D

bent
Long live the music.....

DuncanM

Quote from: bent on July 30, 2006, 05:57:25 PM
:icon_idea: i want to try 2n5088 but i'm totally not certain of the result...cause it's said collector-emitter-base.... ???
the 2n5088 is NPN amplifier transistor....do you think it will work... ???
if so...witch pin-out should be for matching DSG with CEB....

i'm the kind of guy who like to try several things...and when it's blow up in my face :o, i make my decision... ;D ;D ;D

bent

Try it by all means, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work... JFETs (like J201s) and BJTs (like 2n5088) work on different principals and I would think the biasing would be totally out of whack.
I wonder what BJTs would do in a Mu-Amp configuration?  :icon_eek:

However, you might create something interesting by accident.....


But I doubt it.

bent

thank's for the advice.... :icon_biggrin:
i think ill stay with switching the j201 and 2n5457, will be safer... i don't want to redo the pcb .... ;)

ill post my try when finish, tonight i will do some attempt....

bent
Long live the music.....

markm

I don't think it's possible for a BJT to work where a FET is supposed to be  :icon_neutral:

amz-fx

QuoteI wonder what BJTs would do in a Mu-Amp configuration?

Yes, you can do that...  there is a schematic of a version in my mini-booster newsletter.

The bottom transistor in the mini-booster config is where the gain comes from...   the top transistor makes very little difference.   Put a J201 on top and then switch the bottom one around to get different textures.

regards, Jack

markm

Quote from: amz-fx on July 30, 2006, 09:11:20 PM
The bottom transistor in the mini-booster config is where the gain comes from...   the top transistor makes very little difference.   Put a J201 on top and then switch the bottom one around to get different textures.

regards, Jack


I used a 2N5457 for the bottom tranny on my mini booster, seemed to clean up a tad and wasn't as "middy'.
Very nice tone BTW!

Xavier

I used a mix of J201 and 2N5457 as adviced by Ed Guidry. This version has less gain than the all J201 version, but it was equivalent to lower the gain pot. The basic timbre was the same to my ears.