any one got a tiny layout

[snufkin]

any one got a tiny one knob vero layout they could recomend me

i got a sub mxr size hammond style box with ribs given to me but its gonna be a very tight squize



i already built the one knob fuzz


but maby someone has somthing more unusual (ie not a dist, overdrive, fuzz, boost)


thanks

[Torchy]

How about Tim E's "Idiot Wah" ? One knob, fun build 

Vero = http://aronnelson.com/gallery/albums/album28/idiotwah.gif

[snufkin]

great idea


tim + torchy = good build


i didnt think of wah eather

[tcobretti]

That Bronx Cheer layout I just posted is very small, and you should be able to make any booster or a Bazz Fuzz plenty small to make em fit.

[snufkin]

on the idiot wha layout

s1 is a switch right


-could i always hacve that linked up (with just a wire) to save space

-what does the resonance do?

[Torchy]

Yeah, its a switch - Resonance switch. Changes the frequency response.
Check Tims site out for circuit explanation.

OR ... Build it with two wires for the switch and try it - your ears will tell you what resonance is better than words 

[snufkin]

ahhhhh

[RaceDriver205]

Well whatever it is, make sure its something you like the sound of!
Don't just build it just coz you have a box 
What effects do you already have, what effects do you want, and about how big is the box?

[snufkin]

the box is very small

its about 20mm high 100mm long and 45mm across (i can just fit all the big stuff like 2 jack sockets a power scoket and a pot with a bit of room to spare for a vey small vero)

and i have build or am building a fuzz, phaser, tremalo

and i already have overdrive, distortion, delay(both digital and analog), Ocative up and down,


but anithing complex is out of the question here i think ill do the idiot wah or an fx looper

[RaceDriver205]

The idiot wah wont really do anything though, because you need to be varying the pot resistance while you play, and to do that you need to have it in a wah-style pedal.
You could build a booster, the LofoMofo (a superbright treble booster), or the Thing Modulator (a simple ring modulator).
All of these should fit on a very small piece of vero.

[Torchy]

Firstly, snufkin said he specifically didnt want od/fuzz/boost. He wanted something interesting to build in a small box.

Your comment about the Idiot Wah shows lack of imagination. You can use the IW as a stand-alone wah (ever hear of Michael Schenker ? Used a wah pedal set half way as a tone control ?) but the beauty is external control. Tim has outlined how to use LED/LDR control, its the basis of the photon filter. Its been used in sequential wah projects like Vanishing Point. How about triggering the IW from your Phaser/Vibe lfo ? Run the IW against the phase ? Switchable lfo's ? Random switched lfo's ?

Build it in its own little box, with a switched external control socket, and you can trigger it with a variety of other sources. Seems like a pretty interesting and useful box to have around. The key is experimentation, a concept most people round here appear have lost, constantly asking for nailed-on-verified layouts, spoon-fed schematics and "guaranteed-works-first-time" projects. You learn nothing that way, you contribute nothing that way, and you miss out on the best fun that way.

[snufkin]

cool coments guys


i have a big ldr sitting in my parts box  so maby ill try to shoe horn that in 


iv been wanting to use that for ages it lookes soo cool

[Gilles C]

Btw you could build any of Dan Amstrong boxes like the Orange Squeezer.

They were all made to be fitted in small boxes.

Gilles

[Paul Marossy]

An LPB-2 will also fit in a very small box.

[Seljer]

An LPB-2 will also fit in a very small box.

thinking about it...is there even any booster that won't fit in a small box? (well apart from things using tubes)

[snufkin]

i think im gonna usean external ldr as a control replasing the pot by soldering its legs to vr-3 and vr-2&1 on the layout


this is gonna be a cool project made with a free enclosure

[RaceDriver205]

Firstly, snufkin said he specifically didnt want od/fuzz/boost. He wanted something interesting to build in a small box.

I mentioned a ring mod and the lofo, both of which I consider interesting.

Your comment about the Idiot Wah shows lack of imagination. You can use the IW as a stand-alone wah (ever hear of Michael Schenker ? Used a wah pedal set half way as a tone control ?)

I don't concur, im well aware of the way it can act as a standalone filter, but who wants a phase stuck in one spot, who wants a flanger/chorus thats stuck in one spot, who wants an env filter thats stuck in one spot. Maybe someone, but the odds are against. Why not instead build something which has full function.

Tim has outlined how to use LED/LDR control, its the basis of the photon filter. Its been used in sequential wah projects like Vanishing Point. How about triggering the IW from your Phaser/Vibe lfo ? Run the IW against the phase ? Switchable lfo's ? Random switched lfo's ?

How bout you try and fit that stuff in the box he said hes using.

The key is experimentation, a concept most people round here appear have lost, constantly asking for nailed-on-verified layouts, spoon-fed schematics and "guaranteed-works-first-time" projects. You learn nothing that way, you contribute nothing that way, and you miss out on the best fun that way.

Dude, you got a problem? Forgive me if I assume your tone incorrectly. Wtf is wrong with asking for something that is guaranteed to work? Why in gods name would someone piss around for hours and hours attempting to experiment with something they don't really understand, in order to get a good sound, when they can build something with a layout and instructions and get the good sound straight off?
Lol, i guess thats why we have tonepad, coz theres something wrong with people who want "nailed-on-verified layouts".
Spoon-fed schematics? Why would they want that? How bout they just go off and design their own microsynth, I mean its not like thats hard or anything.
Whats your problem, man.

[Somicide]

Firstly, snufkin said he specifically didnt want od/fuzz/boost. He wanted something interesting to build in a small box.

I mentioned a ring mod and the lofo, both of which I consider interesting.

Your comment about the Idiot Wah shows lack of imagination. You can use the IW as a stand-alone wah (ever hear of Michael Schenker ? Used a wah pedal set half way as a tone control ?)

I don't concur, im well aware of the way it can act as a standalone filter, but who wants a phase stuck in one spot, who wants a flanger/chorus thats stuck in one spot, who wants an env filter thats stuck in one spot. Maybe someone, but the odds are against. Why not instead build something which has full function.

Tim has outlined how to use LED/LDR control, its the basis of the photon filter. Its been used in sequential wah projects like Vanishing Point. How about triggering the IW from your Phaser/Vibe lfo ? Run the IW against the phase ? Switchable lfo's ? Random switched lfo's ?

How bout you try and fit that stuff in the box he said hes using.

The key is experimentation, a concept most people round here appear have lost, constantly asking for nailed-on-verified layouts, spoon-fed schematics and "guaranteed-works-first-time" projects. You learn nothing that way, you contribute nothing that way, and you miss out on the best fun that way.

Dude, you got a problem? Forgive me if I assume your tone incorrectly. Wtf is wrong with asking for something that is guaranteed to work? Why in gods name would someone piss around for hours and hours attempting to experiment with something they don't really understand, in order to get a good sound, when they can build something with a layout and instructions and get the good sound straight off?
Lol, i guess thats why we have tonepad, coz theres something wrong with people who want "nailed-on-verified layouts".
Spoon-fed schematics? Why would they want that? How bout they just go off and design their own microsynth, I mean its not like thats hard or anything.
Whats your problem, man.

Whoa, whoa, (second time today to start a post that way) what's with the hostility here?  No need to get huffy over his opinion that nobody seems to be trying anything new anymore.  I see it too (and I'm part of it, I'm sure.  I can't layout anything for shit, though.) and I miss the days of reverse engineering the pickle (not that I understood half of it, but It was a learning experience and damn interesting) and new ideas every week, something new to read, etc.

Back on Topic, I'd recommend the Orange Squeezer, a nice compressor is a great add-on to a guitar rig.

[RaceDriver205]

Whatev somi, he was using a sh~tty tone and it definately looked like he was aiming it squarely at me.
His opinion is fine, his attitude and tone is not.
Oh, and I think the O-Squeeze sounds good, if it will fit