Fuzz Face Wiring with LED

Started by Brave_Ulysses, August 02, 2007, 10:09:00 PM

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Brave_Ulysses

Im making a PNP fuzz face with a negative ground and i have already wired the board and i have all the parts for the rest of it.

The board is from Tonepad and i have chosen to wire it with a negative ground. I have looked over the wiring
diagrams from the tonepad site but because i want to wire it with an LED and without a DC jack I ran into some trouble.
I came across a few different diagrams but Im not sure how to go about doing it.
I have a couple of questions (yes they are very basic and probably silly) about the groundings with this diagrams.


*if im not allowed to post these pictures for whatever reason i can take them out


With the grounding on this diagram (one from the middle lug after the LED and one from bottom left lug) do they
connect? and where do they wire to? both to the black battery lead or what?

By skydog at 2007-08-02


This has multiple grounds on the board. Would I just wire them together? also is this the right diagram for my type of
pedal (PNP fuzz face with negative ground???)

By skydog at 2007-08-02


With the grounding on this where would the ground go? to the board or somewhere else?

By skydog at 2007-08-02


If anyone answers these extremely noobish questions I thank them. Ive searched and searched but i just dont know where to
look. Thank you guys for an amazing forum and i hope to be posting pictures of a completed pedal soon...

petemoore

Quote from: Brave_Ulysses on August 02, 2007, 10:09:00 PM
Im making a PNP fuzz face with a negative ground and i have already wired the board and i have all the parts for the rest of it.
  This could be trouble fixed with a PNP POS Gnd FF, or an NPN Neg Gnd FF, a simple matter of using your board to wire it this way.

The board is from Tonepad and i have chosen to wire it with a negative ground. I have looked over the wiring
diagrams from the tonepad site but because i want to wire it with an LED and without a DC jack I ran into some trouble.
 
I came across a few different diagrams but Im not sure how to go about doing it.
  I would pick one, and then try to pick the right-right Dc jack.
I have a couple of questions (yes they are very basic and probably silly) about the groundings with this diagrams.


*if im not allowed to post these pictures for whatever reason i can take them out


With the grounding on this diagram (one from the middle lug after the LED and one from bottom left lug) do they
connect? and where do they wire to? both to the black battery lead or what?

By skydog at 2007-08-02


This has multiple grounds on the board. Would I just wire them together? also is this the right diagram for my type of
pedal (PNP fuzz face with negative ground???)

By skydog at 2007-08-02


With the grounding on this where would the ground go? to the board or somewhere else?

By skydog at 2007-08-02
  The only ground on this one is the LED cathode.

If anyone answers these extremely noobish questions I thank them. Ive searched and searched but i just dont know where to
look. Thank you guys for an amazing forum and i hope to be posting pictures of a completed pedal soon...
Hard to decide on a question or even a schematic, these problems aren't self-sorting, it's hard to tell whats going on with your build, picking one schematic and sticking with it until you know why you shouldn't makes it easier to identify everything.
  There are different types of DC jacks, different types of DC jack wiring, theres:
  A DC jack
  A DC jack insulated
  DC jacks of different different dimensions.
  just to name a few.
  Another is a non insulated DC jack which can also cause problems.
  Then theres DC jack with bypass battery wiring feeding input battery defeat trick...and all variations of that...
  This can make it hard to form a good question, hard to get a sure answer....maybe someone else can take a crack at sorting it out, but I'd suggest pick a schematic and types of DC and phono jacks you need for it to work, as well as the type of box [insulated or conductive].
 
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

GREEN FUZ

I believe the second layout should work for what you are trying to achieve. Essentially all the ground wiring should meet in the same place. Having looked at the Tonepad layout there doesn`t seem to be much provision for this so if it were me I would simply drill a few extra holes in one of the ground pads. Other than that there is the star-grounding method where the ground wires meet at, I think, the input jack. Don`t quote me on that as it`s not a system I use personally but there will be some on the forum better qualified to advise on that matter.

Bear in mind, while not always the case, some people report of issues such as motorboating when wiring PNP circuits Negative ground. Good luck.

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