Crybaby -> Distortion+ problem

[MarcoMike]

Hi, as the title says...
yesterday I was playing with my band. I tried a song with wah->distortion+(Ge) instead of the usual wah->boost->amp. There was no wha sound coming out, the crybaby was acting only as a "gain" control on the dist. then I switched to fuzz->wah->amp and everything was working right...

Is it supposed to be like this?
I thought wah are supposed to be (more or less) first in line and actually all other pedals after the wah are wrking ok, the Dist+ is the only one which upsets the wah.

[GibsonGM]

Something's wrong with the Dist+, I guess....somehow, the impedance has dropped at the Dist+ and now you're experiencing a tone-sucking issue like with a Fuzz Face, it seems.    Check out your input connections at the Dist+, whether the 1M resistor to ground there is ok, and maybe something zapped the opamp in some way?    How's it sound alone, with no wah?

[petemoore]

  'Could be a bad cable' always works for me, and for the music store guy, unless you can whip out reciepts for all the new cables used during problem solving ventures.
  My blanket coverage for problems I don't really know about yet, covers just about everything.
  Sticking a buffer between the wah and dist+ [or some pedal with bypass buffers] would sufficiently match impedance and make for easy comparative test.
  The Dist+ got pre-wahed just fine, it was the FF that didn't cotton to wah outputs.

[MarcoMike]

I tried some combinations during my lunch break: wah->TS->Dist+ (all of them ON, of course ) works fine. distortions are distorting and wah is "wahing" 
so I guess it is probably an impedence problem... or something in the "input side" of the D+ that messes up the wah from its output...
this makes me sick, because the Dist+ and Crybaby work just perfectly on their own....

[wampcat1]

just run any old boss/ibanez/etc pedal between the two and problem is solved.
bw

[sshrugg]

I'm in the process of making a Dist+.  I'll have to remember to try this with my Crybaby535Q

[wampcat1]

I'm in the process of making a Dist+.  I'll have to remember to try this with my Crybaby535Q

Unless you do the exact same bypass wiring as the stock unit you won't have this problem.
bw

[MarcoMike]

Well, actually I didn't mention that.... but my Dist+ is of course DIY. the GCB95 is more or less stock instead.

I thought I may just solve the problem putting the D+ before the wah, the sound is nice (the TS instead is really weak before the Wah).... or maybe putting a buffer instead of TrueBypass in the pedal just before the D+, which is a BSIAB2 and there is a lot of free space in its box...

[sshrugg]

*nods* It's going to be a true bypass like my others, so I guess it won't happen to me.  Thanks!