Bazz Fuzz question: Am I hooking this up correctly?

Started by deschete, February 07, 2008, 02:40:52 PM

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ambulancevoice

Quote from: deschete on February 10, 2008, 11:11:00 PM
I finally got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The black ring on my diodes meant that was the NEGATIVE side, not the POSITIVE side.  Once I flipped the diode, everything magically worked!

THANK YOU ALL so much for helping with this!  I no longer feel like a total failure; I've stepped up to feeling like a complete newbie who can only make very simple things.  Your efforts are sincerly appreciated.

Now that I have sound, I need to figure out the resistor/input cap/output cap values and how they relate to the actual SOUND of my bass passing through... hopefully actually the FUN part that involves SOUND!

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ok, now you know
no matter what the ring around the diode mean NEGATIVE or Cathode or K
and end with no ring means POSITIVE or Anode or A
this is why pictures would have been good

anyway, i real glad you got it working!!!!!!
play with the input and output caps mostly
also, like Marcelo and I always say, add a bias pot!! more fun awaits!!
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deschete

Quote from: ambulancevoice on February 11, 2008, 07:05:37 AM



anyway, i real glad you got it working!!!!!!
play with the input and output caps mostly
also, like Marcelo and I always say, add a bias pot!! more fun awaits!!


Interesting, that does bring up another question: is there a site or page that explains what changing the input/output caps does exactly to alter the sound?

petemoore

  caps pass high frequencies with less attenuation/resistance that low ones.
  0 frequency = DC, caps block DC.
  larger cap values let bass pass more unattenuated.
  stick a small one so the signal has to pass through it [in series with signal path, such as staging caps] and caps do what caps do anywhere else, attenuate lower frequencies, smaller caps to a lesser extent.
  stick a small cap between signal path and...ground, cap still does same thing..attenuate lows, but in this case they provide a low resistance path, right to ground [0.0v where 'nothing' happens..overstatement but for this case ok], so all the highs travel to ground instead of output.
  Overstatement again...but diddling with the [two types of positions explained above] values explains it better, one is HP filter
  HP Filter: High pass filter, such a cap from SP to Gnd.  [rolls off highs].
  LP Filter: Low pass filter such as staging cap/cap in series with SP. [rolls off lows].
  The input and output caps necessarily are easy points for modding, the wire carrying the signal nearly always goes to a lug [volume pot or switch etc] and can be easily swapped or seriesed with [added to] the existing capacitor to alter it's value, seriesing two equal caps halves value, paralleling doubles..odd values are another story best studied elsewhere such as trying it.
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ambulancevoice

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deschete

Well, I'm using the Bazz Fuzz as an actual Bass Guitar Fuzz.  I kept feeling like the sound was a bit wimpy, though, and i was a little disappointed.

Then I went back and looked at the schematic and noticed that the original schem called for 10uf caps on in and out.  WOW!!! What a difference changing the input and output caps made to the sound.  I might acutally put this into a pedal enclosure now.

PurpleStrat


deschete

Quote from: PurpleStrat on February 13, 2008, 11:20:03 PM
So you replaced the 4.7uf and .1 with 10uf caps?

Yes, I put 10uf electrolytic caps per Christian's original diagram.  I also experimented with adding a 1kL multi-turn pot between the transistor and ground (shown in the "deluxe bass fuzz" schematic as a 1kL standard pot) tonight and had great results... if the effect is bottoming out, I can adjust the trim pot and take some dirt away until it's "stable" again.  This would let me "tune" the pedal for the bass attached to it... or I could just put a knob on the final pedal and vary it there.  The trim pot gave a more fine range of control though and I'm usually a "set it and forget it" guy.

jayp5150

Mine is built into my bass, and I have a good result using the volume on the bass as a gain.

I found that this isn't really possible unless using a darlington, as you get a gated sound when the volume's not cranked.

You could experiment with kind of a pre-gain, like the "smooth" knob on some of the FF schems floating around here. just throw a 100k-500k pot as a variable resistor in front of the circuit. If I ever box mine, this is probably what I'm doing.

I built mine with 10uf in/out caps, home-made darlington (2 2N5089's), and I believe I stuck with the 1N914 diodes.

brett

Hi
my son is a bass player and uses the darlington version of the Bass Fuzz a lot. 
Changing the diode changes the flavour somewhat, but I like the basic 1N4148.
Such a simple circuit with such good results.
cheers
Brett Robinson
Let a hundred flowers bloom, let a hundred schools of thought contend. (Mao Zedong)