Electro Mechanical Effects Delays,Reverbs,Phasors

Started by walters, April 10, 2005, 08:36:47 AM

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Pushtone

Frank,

Those scans of old tech clippings are awesome.
Got any more?

If so, you should dedicate a thread in the lounge.
I love that kinda stuff.

Dave
It's time to buy a gun. That's what I've been thinking.
Maybe I can afford one, if I do a little less drinking. - Fred Eaglesmith

frank_p

Quote from: Pushtone on May 21, 2008, 11:26:16 AM
Those scans of old tech clippings are awesome.
Got any more?

Yes, if you guys like it, I am going to put more when I see opportunities.  I don't want to be annoying neither.  If you could read french also I would put some of the old "Science Et Vie" mag.  What I like about it is that you see how much science can make people dream about all kind of funny ideas.

And for you I'll try to make a "special" in the lounge.  ;)   

Gladmarr

Quote from: puretube on May 21, 2008, 06:28:37 AM
BTW: the topicstarter is still active on HC,
and I wish he were at an other "...forum"  :icon_razz: :icon_razz:

Oh yeah.  I looked on HC and saw some of his posts.  Wow, are the people there hostile toward him.  He's certainly tenacious to keep posting unphased by some of those responses.

puretube

The first mentioning of the Wah-Effect cc. patents, was >80 yrs ago...:

http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB232050&F=0

:icon_eek:

frank_p


DavidRavenMoon

Quote from: Mark Hammer on April 11, 2005, 02:44:57 PMIs tape flanging "better" than completely electronic flanging?  That's hard to say.  You see, most of the "classic" instances of tape flanging that became the audio benchmark, like "The Big Hurt", "Itchy-Coo Park", "Sky Pilot", "Axis Bold as Love", etc., used tape flanging as a post-production effect.  It was superimposed on pre-mixed-tracks that already contained more than one signal source.  Because of this, the pre-mixed tracks had more bandwidth taken up.  So whatever notches the tape flanging were going to produce were more audible because there was signal covering the entire range where those notches might occur.  If a grimacing guitarist bends a single note at the 15th fret of their high E and runs THAT through a flanger, there will be a whole lot of potential notches that simply aren't heard because there is no frequency content in that range.

There is likely whatever effect the saturation of tape yields, plus the advantages of electronically synced tape decks when it comes to producing through-zero flanging, but as for intensity of effect, many confuse what tape flanging was generally used on with what it is capable of.  My guess is that single instruments run through tape flanging would not sound nearly as impressive.

The only difference I think is most electronic flangers are not through-zero.  I've mimicked that with an old Yamaha REX-50 by delaying the clean signal slightly.. so if you can live with a little bit of latency, you can get a nice tape flange effect.  The other thing is the LFO waveforms on most flangers don't spend enough time on the "bottom" of the sweep.  Craig Anderton had a nice fix for that in the Hyperflange.

My old PAiA Phlanger was a real nice sounding device... if a tad noisy. 

RIP John Simonton.   :icon_cry:
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