Have you ever...? And Treble booster question.

Started by CodeMonk, May 24, 2008, 08:43:36 PM

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CodeMonk

I'm in the process of building an Anderton Comparator and a Dallas Rangemaster (Austin something or other).
I'm sure its been done many times, but how did most of you go about combining 2 or more effects into one (say a fuzz and a treble booster).
And what would happen if you built, say,  a Jordan Bosstone, and stuck a treble booster in-line with the circuitry of the fuzz, like in between the 2 transistors? Just curious.

And for those of you that have built a treble booster, where in your effects order did you put it?

Thanks

darron

it's not difficult to do. if you can build them in two separate boxes and put a patch cable between then, then you can shove them in the one box and only use and input and output jack.

do you want a separate bypass switch for them both, or one switch that turns them both on and off? the basic idea is to leave out the output jack of the first circuit, leave out the input jack of the second circuit, and just wire them together.

treble and tone control in distortion plays a massive key to how it will come out sounding. depends on how you put it, but it sounds like you would get a more overdriven sound rather than a fuzz sound. letting heaps of bass through before distortion is what makes things fuzz a lot. bass frequencies have a lot of volume generally and are the first things that start to overdrive, and when you mix that with the rest of the signal it muffs it up. if you boosted lots of treble then you'd have less bass boosted. and you'd get the rest of the signal clipping first.
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petemoore

  Worth a look around at a dual bypass {IIRC GGG has diagrams].
  Yes I have...
  Just didn't like the Rangemaster after the FF.
  Other than that pick your booster or FF, and I've 1/2 probably tried the chains possible with them, pick some out and I'll try to compile comments, without any specifics, there are too many options to not ramble on about.
  I still like the RM [with whatever...probably an .022uf or .047uf input cap] as treble boosting into a FF.
  But the fat sound of fine Buffer>FF driving a Minibooster [w/TC] is a favorite of mine also.
  Haven't looked at the Bosstone lately, [if it's two gain stages, a third stage maybe could go in the middle] but would probably opt for adding a boost before or after it as an 'easy enough to try first' and 'I'll at least have a booster and BT working after my build-work' approach...then just do some voicing from there.
  Basically, pre-Fuzz boosting produces harder clipping and results a harder fuzz sound [also can often use some HF taming], noisier and doesn't tend to clean up as easily.
  Post Fuzzing may drive the next thing [amp?] into bettor or worse sound...depends on...how you like it.
  Yupp..opting for the other boxes when finding the circuit orders in chain that are desirable...well..you don't end up with a fixed-link-order chain's shortcomings being more difficult to change and modify...you can switch and swap them around more easily.
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CodeMonk

I know its easy to put 2 effects into the same box, with or without separate switches.
I was more curious if anyone had done what I suggested there, putting some effect's input and output, into another effect's circuit. It was more a general question and not necessarily fuzz related (Although thats what gave me the idea).
Like if you were to build an octave effect, then say stick that circuit somewhere in the circuit of say, a flange.
Or any effect's circuit into the circuit of another effect.
It was more of a "Have you ever done blah blah blah, for shits and grins?" type of question.