The Fuzz Face feedback path

Started by Mark Hammer, November 18, 2013, 02:43:28 PM

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Mark Hammer

I made myself a ZVex Wooly Mammoth clone, using the Madbean layout, and found the Bite control (equivalent to Pinch on the actual commercial product) to yield an interesting effect.  It is pleasingly interactive with the Gain control setting.

This past week, I was dickering around with a clone of the JSH Fuzz (AKA Jen Fuzz III).  It is essentially another silicon Fuzz Face, and uses a 150k resistor between the emitter of Q2 (actually Q3 in the circuit) and the base of Q1.  As anticipated, increasing the feedback resistance yielded some nice changes to the intensity of the fuzz produced.  I recommend such a mod to any Fuzz Face derivative.  Does it need to be a pot?  Not necessarily.  For instance, you could stick a 470k in series with the stock 100k feedback resistor (or whatever value is used i that particular build), and use a 3-position toggle to select either the full 470k, bridge the 470k to revert back to stock, or stick another resistor in parallel with the 470k to yield something in between.  Given how interactive it is with the Gain control, restricting yourself to "only" 3 positions does not limit the variety of sounds, so much as make it easier to get back to the ones you like.

Noting that the Dunlop Jimi Hendrix JH-1 Fuzz Face sticks a small-value cap in parallel with that resistance, it might even be worthwhile to tinker with use of a DPDT on-off-on toggle to stick different caps in parallel with that path to complement the resistance change.

Worth exploring.

LucifersTrip

Quote from: Mark Hammer on November 18, 2013, 02:43:28 PM

This past week, I was dickering around with a clone of the JSH Fuzz (AKA Jen Fuzz III).  It is essentially another silicon Fuzz Face, and uses a 150k resistor between the emitter of Q2 (actually Q3 in the circuit) and the base of Q1.

(actually Q2 in the circuit)

Is the below schematic incorrect?  Awhile ago, I built the Jen & Jen III, but if I remember, I just breadboarded the JSH and didn't get it to sound good enough. I'm pretty I used this, thinking that "change" was what made it unique.

always think outside the box

Gus

The feedback resistor also is part of the biasing of the circuit
A thread I started
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=104818.0

Mark Hammer

Quote from: LucifersTrip on November 18, 2013, 07:06:21 PM
Quote from: Mark Hammer on November 18, 2013, 02:43:28 PM

This past week, I was dickering around with a clone of the JSH Fuzz (AKA Jen Fuzz III).  It is essentially another silicon Fuzz Face, and uses a 150k resistor between the emitter of Q2 (actually Q3 in the circuit) and the base of Q1.

(actually Q2 in the circuit)

Is the below schematic incorrect?  Awhile ago, I built the Jen & Jen III, but if I remember, I just breadboarded the JSH and didn't get it to sound good enough. I'm pretty I used this, thinking that "change" was what made it unique.


It is 99% correct.  The one error is that the 150k resistor is shown as connected to the emitter of Q2.  It should be connected to the base, and emitter of Q2 should go to ground, as it does in any other Fuzz Face-based circuit.  Phil Bryant redrew it.  I'm not sure where the redraw is, but you've shown the earlier one.

LucifersTrip

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Quote from: Mark Hammer on November 18, 2013, 07:58:05 PM

It is 99% correct.  The one error is that the 150k resistor is shown as connected to the emitter of Q2.

right...that's the "change" I was referring to above that I initially thought made it unique. sadly, it's not...

thanx for confirming

edit:
...and the layout floating around is incorrect, also

always think outside the box