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cool idea maybe?

Started by pinkjimiphoton, April 05, 2011, 12:59:53 PM

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pinkjimiphoton

Quote from: Rodgre on April 06, 2011, 11:33:29 PM
30ms is still in the chorus range where you won't hear much of a discrete delay slap. I like your creativity. Maybe try a longer delay time?

yah, a longer delay could be VERY hip....but too long, and i don't think the effect would sound the same, but there'd be more that you could do with it, for sure.
feedback wouldn't be necessary, but could make for some cool drones and noise, and maybe even some flanging/chorusing.

i was thinking about 30 ms, so you'd get 30, 60, and 90 ms...enough where it would still stay useable for single note leads...it could sound backwards in real time kinda is what i'm envisioning!
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If you use 3 rebote delays, I believe you can get up to 1.1 seconds of delay plus controllable feedback for each. You`ll need this, since your second delay time will be 30% longer than your first, and the third delay time will always be another 30% longer than your second. Then you`ll be able to get your 1-2-3 sequence. If I`ve got time, I`ll try a rough sketch of the lay of the land to see if it makes sense. I`m tight for time though, since I just sold my house, and have to move in June.
If the dry signal output can be removed from 2 of the 3 effects, I believe it would be a neat effect. You would get the following in sequence if the time stagger and feedback were set up right. Let`s say with 3 different fuzz sounds (one strum), staggered delays, and feedback on 1 repeat;

-Dry 1st fuzz with no repeat, followed by;
-2nd fuzz wet signal, one repeat only, followed by;
-3erd fuzz wet signal, one repeat only.

Bang, bang, bang.

I think the feedback control would be critical, to control the repeats. Also, it would allow you to increase the repeats, thus having 2 or more repeats sound before the next effect come through (if you don`t run out of delay time). This sucker would have a shitload of knobs! Not exactly an effect that you could adjust on the fly. During a show. Playing speed metal. After a few beers. :icon_eek:
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digi2t

OK, I was doodling at work (hey! I work for the government, give me a break), and I came up with this;



3 Robote delays (with wet/dry pot mod), AMZ input splitter, and  AMZ mixer (only 3 channels, not 4)... and a big box. And you should still be able to use your pedals individually, as you normally would, bypassing all the delay crap. You could even run all 3 pedals in parallel, and enjoy whatever mish-mash comes out the other end.

I know it's rough, but I have to go through these doodle/logic sessions to see if any of this chaos makes sense, let alone if it's do-able. It MIGHT work.

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Dino
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pinkjimiphoton

wow, dino, you were busy!! i like the way you think...actually, i think having it your way may even be better, as you can choose which boxes you want effected...i was thinking everything should be on one board, or at least in one box...that's why i chose really small simple fuzzular circuits with a couple parts...

but this is hip!!  ;D
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digi2t

Just brainstorming the idea, that`s all. Makes the day go by quicker. Anyway, by making loops, you can use the pedals of your choice. Mix and match, yet be able to cut out the loop or delay and use the pedals on their own, as you would normally.

I think if you use the available diagrams, you should be able to piece it together easily enough. If you do, let me know. Then we can kick around the idea of MIDI`fying it :icon_mrgreen:.
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pinkjimiphoton

plus, you could run whatever other effects you want...say, an autowah, flanger, hell, a pitch shifter. gets a way from the all in one original tho, which i may try to breadboard at some point in the future...finances are a little wack right now, just blew god knows too much cash on parts...again...lol. i'll go to get one stupid part and walk out with 40 bucks worth of components...you know how it is!
;)

i think to start, when i can afford to, i'll try your idea out first. then, if it seems plausible, i'll try to make it an all-in-one circuit to see how it works, and if it does, release it into the wild for peeps to do with as they please. thanks for the help, bro, it's really appreciated....

if YOU build this thing up, or anyone else wants to try, please keep me posted!!
peace!
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