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effects looper..

Started by mr_deadmaxxx, September 07, 2011, 03:41:00 AM

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mr_deadmaxxx

im looking for a good (preferably the best) effects looper in diystompboxes..
is there anyone kind enough to share the links?

Quackzed

Do you mean like a true bypass 'effects loop' looper, where you choose to engage or bypass the 'loop'?
or do you mean like a 'delay looper' where you play a phrase, then have it repeat indefinately in a 'loop' to play against?
 
nothing says forever like a solid block of liquid nails!!!

mr_deadmaxxx

A friend of mine told me that, if i were to bypass two or more pedals without having to use both feet, i would need an 'effects looper'.
Well that's the term that he used. So i was hoping that there's already someone here in diystompboxes who made that kind of looper.


mr_deadmaxxx

Quote from: artifus on September 13, 2011, 03:16:35 AM
http://www.beavisaudio.com/techpages/PedalHacker/index.htm

that site that you posted, is that only usable for bypassing only two pedals?
what if i would want another loop, do i have to build another looper for the "other" loop?

arma61

Hi

I'm working on this atm, it has 3 loop with SND and RTN, one SND for a Tuner and a Master switch for bypass


http://home.centurytel.net/flanneldrawers/3-loop-w-tuner-out-master-bypass.jpg



built into this enclosure



with this layout




Ciao!
Armando

"it's a matter of objectives. If you don't know where you want to go, any direction is about as good as any other." R.G. Keen

mr_deadmaxxx

@arma61

can i ask a little explanation on how you use that looper of yours to your pedals?

arma61


I'm not using it ;D ... just building it for fun :D ! and because I have some of that big enclosures around ;D.

normally you connect you FX(s) into one loop and turn it on and off with the looper switch. let's do an example



Loop1
TS808
Loop2
BigMuff
Loop3
Echo

you have the following combinations
LP1 - TS808 alone
LP2 - BigMuff alone
LP3 - Echo alone
LP1+LP2        TS808+BigMuff
LP1+LP3        TS808+Echo
LP2+LP3        BigMuff+Echo
LP1+LP2+LP3 TS808+BigMuff+Echo

you can have more than one FX in the loops, that's bring to a loads of possibility!

with the Master switch you just truebypass the whole board so all the effects.


(realized just now I should have put on the layout Send on the right and Return on the left!!)


Ciao
Armando
"it's a matter of objectives. If you don't know where you want to go, any direction is about as good as any other." R.G. Keen

mr_deadmaxxx

so with LP1+LP2, you stomp both footswitches with just one foot?

so how do you stomp LP1+LP2+LP3 with just one foot?

arma61

No it was just an exaple of how many solutions you have with 3/4 loops. You just need to stomp one switch at a time!.


Take into accound that I just draw one FX per loop, but you can have a whole pedalboard in the loop! ie, you can have TS808+bigmuff+echo in one loop and a chorus in another loop, and ..... say you have a vast repertoire of music at your gig, you may have Heavy metal sound in one loop, Hendrix sound in another loop, and some blues sound in another one, with just one stomp you can swich among them.

with one switch you have them all on and off, or better I should say with one stomp you let them enter in your chain alltogehter, all the effect connected to the loop.

Probably you have to take into account cable impedance and capacitance and whatelse.... in this case don't ask me  :D :D :D :D :D know noting 'bout!!

Remeber all the FXs in the loop must be turned on  :icon_mrgreen:  :icon_mrgreen:  :icon_mrgreen:


"it's a matter of objectives. If you don't know where you want to go, any direction is about as good as any other." R.G. Keen

Galego

I like mine a lot, but I still have to post the info about it. I'll do that soon.




Mark Hammer

Loop selectors can be used in many ways.  Some folks think of them in terms of simply a replacement for individual TB stompswitches, but they can serve much more strategic purposes.

For instance, one can insert any number of pedals in series within a single loop, and use the loop selector as a simple "no effects" switch.  One stomp and you bypass anything and everything you may have had on a moment go.  One of the neat things about this is that a person could have a LOT of pedals that require preparing.  So, for the next part of the tune, yu need THAT fuzz on and the phaser, play some echo, and need to turn off the compressor and the overdrive and tremolo.  Having all that stuff nested within the loop lets you deselect the loop, do the appropriate stomping to turn stuff off and turn other stuff on, then engage the whole shebang like it was your own personal multi-FX unit.

In other instances, a person may wish to have several loops, either in series or one nested within the other.  For instance, you may have one loop that has all the boosters, compressors, EQ, and clipping devices situated in it, and a second loop after it with all your modulation devices.  In other instances, a loop can be "nested" within another such that if one were to have effects A->B->C->D->E->F, you could have one master loop for the whole thing, and a secondary loop for C and D, permitting you to some selection of all 6 effects, some selection of A/B/E/F with or without something from the C/D group, or bypass the whole thing.

mr_deadmaxxx

i'm just wondering..

what if i were to switch from chorus+delay loop (SW1) to distortion-with-no-delay loop(SW2)?

doesn't that mean that i have to stomp OFF the SW1, and at the same time, stomp ON the SW2?
that would be stomping both switches with one foot?
are there other tricks to do that?

arma61

Yes true, also in a normal pedalboard made with all the pedals in a row, you still need to turn off the delay and stomp in the distortion though.

worse case you need 2 chorus, one per loop ;D just kidding ! I think the goal of a looper like this is to have a "pre-set" combination of sound in one switch. it's just a matter of planning before what is needed for , let's say a gig, and set up the pedals in the right way.

Though on my enlcosure doesn't look too hard to stomp 2 switches at the same time.

"it's a matter of objectives. If you don't know where you want to go, any direction is about as good as any other." R.G. Keen