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Started by bsmcc2010, January 18, 2012, 09:33:21 AM

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bsmcc2010

So i posted a week or so ago about frying a dynacomp circuit when i accidentally touched it directly onto the 9v power jack whilst my 1spot was plugged it.

Before i did this it was working perfectly so i know that the layout is right and is verified. It's a dynacomp with clean blend that i found in the gallery but i changed a couple of values and added an attack control (yes mark i know it's not really an attack control :')

Here's a link to the layout i used: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/857/orangesquashnotextpic.png/

That is a layout i drew myself with my changed values and added attack pot. It is exactly what i worked from.

I don't think that the chips are what's not working because i tried new ones in it and it still didn't work-they may however be a dodgy chip in one of the sockets at the moment because i mixed them up-but i have spare chips. Anyway, here are my results from my multi metre.

Unconnected Battery- 8.16

IC1
1-4.04     2-4.03    3-3.94    4-0.00    5-3.94    6-4.61    7-4.03    8-8.06

IC2
1-0.00    2-2.98    3-2.98    4-0.00    5-0.66    6-2.64    7-8.05    8-0.00

Q1
C-8.04    B-1.46    E-7.36

Q2
C-5.51    B-2.64    E-2.47

Q3
C-7.45    B-0.00    E-0.00

Q4
C-0.00    B-0.12    E-7.45

Q5
C-8.03    B-1.23    E-1.69


Hopefully someone can tell me what's up or tell me to measure something else-thanks in advance :)

R.G.

Quote from: bsmcc2010 on January 18, 2012, 09:33:21 AM
Here's a link to the layout i used:
That is a layout i drew myself with my changed values and added attack pot. It is exactly what i worked from.
Is there a schematic that goes with that, or did you work directly from the layout? It makes it difficult to follow if I need to reverse-trace it out.

QuoteIC1
1-4.04     2-4.03    3-3.94    4-0.00    5-3.94    6-4.61    7-4.03    8-8.06
Nothing noticeably wrong.

QuoteIC2
1-0.00    2-2.98    3-2.98    4-0.00    5-0.66    6-2.64    7-8.05    8-0.00
Nothing noticeably wrong.

QuoteQ1
C-8.04    B-1.46    E-7.36
Something wrong here. Emitter should not be higher than base.

QuoteQ3
C-7.45    B-0.00    E-0.00
Q4
C-0.00    B-0.12    E-7.45
I ... think ... that Q4 is inserted backwards in the layout. Both C3 and  C4 emitters should be at ground/0.00V.
Quote
Q5
C-8.03    B-1.23    E-1.69
Base lower than emitter indicates something wrong here.

The "something wrongs" could be the transistors or the components around them. A schematic would make this a lot easier.
R.G.

In response to the questions in the forum - PCB Layout for Musical Effects is available from The Book Patch. Search "PCB Layout" and it ought to appear.

bsmcc2010

Hi R.G. thanks for the reply.

You comments on the transistors are interesting because everything was working perfectly before I fried it which indicates that they are correct? Also i put new ones in afterwards to see if that made a difference.

From what you've said i reckon i've broken loads of the caps :(

petemoore

  Knowing what fried it'd help, even knowing we don't know what fried it would [ie the resistors would probably still thier original R values = good, traces are still traces etc., but something isn't yet all good].
   If it could have been AC or inverted supply voltage, consider the polarized components have been DC reverse polarized or "AC Zapped" and should be checked for [diodes, whatever else can be checked] or changed [capacitors are tricky to check, new one is POElimination tester for questionable caps].
  Working before means it probably 'just' needs everything on the board to follow the schematic again.
   It's in there....whatever it is !
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

bsmcc2010

Hi pete, sorry i forgot to mention that :')

I tested it outside the enclosure and it worked fine, but i tried to squeeze it into a too small enclosure and ended up touching part of the circuit (i don't know what) directly onto the DC power jack whilst plugged in.