3 pedals in and none of them work. Please help!

Started by facon, November 04, 2012, 07:13:08 PM

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IvIark

Quote from: ashcat_lt on November 06, 2012, 01:28:03 AM
That layout freaks me out.  There should be a jumper.  One of those wires should be labeled something other than ground, or omitted entirely.

Why?  A jumper would mean having to add an additional column specifically for the jumper and many people would prefer a narrower board to leave more space at the sides for offboard wiring and have to make a simple daisy chain connection than have a wider board.  And they both need connecting to ground and so the labels are accurate, what else would you suggest to label it as?

ashcat_lt

I don't use vero, nor other people's layouts, and I guess I don't know all of the etiquette for those things, but it looks like there's a whole bunch of places you could run that jumper without having to widen the board.  Then you could just get rid of one of the ground wires.  Or you could call it "LED anode", or something.

This thread is the exact reason why!

IvIark

Quote from: ashcat_lt on November 06, 2012, 12:25:36 PM
I don't use vero, nor other people's layouts, and I guess I don't know all of the etiquette for those things, but it looks like there's a whole bunch of places you could run that jumper without having to widen the board.  Then you could just get rid of one of the ground wires.  Or you could call it "LED anode", or something.

This thread is the exact reason why!

The exact reason why someone didn't do the offboard wiring the way the layout called for it to be done?  And you're more than welcome to point out to me where the link could be put in so that it didn't require another column adding, and in a place where it can lay flat and not have to go over any other links or components.  Otherwise you'd just be describing a daisy chained wire which is exactly what the layout calls for.  Also not too sure why one of the grounds could be re-labelled to connect to the positive side of the LED, but if you want to do that on your layouts you're more than welcome to add any label you want.

ashcat_lt

Okay.  Like I said, not fully aware or the "rules" on these layouts.  I was not completely sure on the name of that leg of the LED.  Rather than stop to google it, I made what I thought a reasonable guess.  :icon_redface: I'll never forget again. 

Thanks!

nocentelli

Don't mean to stir up any contoversy here, but I frequently do layouts with multiple grounds, to  volume1, input, output, power negative, footswitch lug for LED connection etc, and star-grounding be damned.
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ashcat_lt

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I build on perf and just stick stuff where it fits.  Diagonal components, wires hanging out the middle of the board and jumpers where they're needed.

I think, though, that if I was trying to make it paint by numbers and avoid the type of confusion as in the OP we might be a little more explicit and less redundant.  "Idiot proofing" they call it.  No offense intended to the OP.

facon

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Quote from: IvIark on November 06, 2012, 01:14:49 PM
Quote from: ashcat_lt on November 06, 2012, 12:25:36 PM
I don't use vero, nor other people's layouts, and I guess I don't know all of the etiquette for those things, but it looks like there's a whole bunch of places you could run that jumper without having to widen the board.  Then you could just get rid of one of the ground wires.  Or you could call it "LED anode", or something.

This thread is the exact reason why!

The exact reason why someone didn't do the offboard wiring the way the layout called for it to be done?  And you're more than welcome to point out to me where the link could be put in so that it didn't require another column adding, and in a place where it can lay flat and not have to go over any other links or components.  Otherwise you'd just be describing a daisy chained wire which is exactly what the layout calls for.  Also not too sure why one of the grounds could be re-labelled to connect to the positive side of the LED, but if you want to do that on your layouts you're more than welcome to add any label you want.

Obviously for a new guy it was a little confusing. Most of the PCBs I've worked with have two ground connections (in and out). I made the assumption that this was the case. Which was my fault and now i know better. Regardless, thank you for posting the ridiculous amounts of layouts that you do. It wasn't my intention to call any speculation on your designs.

facon

Quote from: ashcat_lt on November 06, 2012, 04:43:08 PM
I build on perf and just stick stuff where it fits.  Diagonal components, wires hanging out the middle of the board and jumpers where they're needed.

I think, though, that if I was trying to make it paint by numbers and avoid the type of confusion as in the OP we might be a little more explicit and less redundant.  "Idiot proofing" they call it.  No offense intended to the OP.

Haha no offense taken. I get what you mean. However, I think his layouts aren't exactly meant to be for beginners. I just took the plung because the best way for me to learn is to challenge myself.