Fuzz Face Build Help

Started by wallcactus, January 14, 2013, 06:20:34 PM

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wallcactus

Hi, I've been doing my first pedal build, a fuzz face clone. I've been following this layout: https://www.smallbearelec.com/HowTos/BreadboardSiFF/BreadboardSiFF.htm
I've just used the stock build there, but I substituted a 10K trimpot in place of the 8K2 resistor. All of the other values of the components are the same. I breadboarded this circuit, and figured out how to wire in a DPDT switch, worked great had awesome fuzz with bypass. So now I've tried to solder it onto a board I have that has the same layout as breadboard. There are two buses on it, with rows of connected holes, just like a breadboard. I moved everything from the breadboard to the other board in the same way I had it breadboarded. However when I turn it on now I get a bypass channel which sounds good, but when I switch to turn on the fuzz I get a dead signal. I tested the components and here's what I got.

VOLTAGES:
Battery: 8.56V
Q1: E= 0V                 Q2: E= 0.702V
      B= 0.587V                 B= 1.318V
      C= 1.318V                 C= 7.84V (I am able to change this voltage down to 4.5V and lower, however when testing it, I still didn't get any sound to come through).

33K resistor: 8.56V and 1.318V
100K resistor: 0.698V and 0.584V
330 ohm resistor: 8.56V and 8.24V
Trimpot: 8.23V and 7.84V (however this voltage is adjustable)

My offboard wiring to the jacks and switch is as follows:                   

I have numbered the pins on my switch like this:       1- 4-
                                                                            2- 5-
                                                                            3- 6-

Fuzz Pot: CCW to ground        Volume Pot: CCW to ground
              Wiper to a16                              Wiper to switch #4
              CW to a13                                 CW to d20

-Switch #1 to stereo jack tip
-Jumper from switch #1 to switch #6
-Switch #2 to c3
-Switch #3 to ground bus
-Switch #5 to mono jack tip
-Red battery lead to power bus
-Black battery lead to stereo jack ring
-Stereo jack ring to ground bus
-Mono jack sleeve to stereo jack sleeve
-Stereo jack sleeve to ground bus

I think that's everything, I'm not sure if I have a grounding issue or what, I just can't figure out why this circuit worked on a regular breadboard but not on this, does it have something to do with grounding to the enclosure? The enclosure is the only new piece to this circuit. If anybody can help me out huge thanks!


chromesphere

Hi Wallcactus,

Thought this might help you, a video i uploaded last night on fault diagnosing a fuzz face i built recently.  AMAZING coincidence because the issue i had was no signal when engaged as well.  Probably not the same issue as yours but still might be worth your time to watch it?  I also mention the voltages on the transistors that i was getting so you can compare those to yours.
Anyway, hope it helps and good luck!
Paul


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LucifersTrip

1) did you take voltages when it worked on the breadboard?

2) even though 7.8V is too high, the rest of the voltages are good, so you should have sound. therefore, the problem most likely lies in the offboard wiring (best to show a closeup pic for someone to spot an error)

3) if you have 7.8V with an 8.2K resistor and everything else is wired correctly, you should probably choose a different transistor. you get a better sound when you don't have to adjust too much to hit 4.5 - 5v. the 10K trimmer is probably not enough to bring it down to that range.
always think outside the box

wallcactus

Hey guys, thank you so much for the suggestions! Turns out it was a problem with my soldering. I scratched every pad and now it sounds just like it should, mystery solved!