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Acoustic Pop stop

Started by Drumennut, January 15, 2013, 01:55:52 AM

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Drumennut

I am fairly new to pedal building and still learning, I have about 10 pedals under my belt and am learning as I go.  I am having a problem with my acoustic pedal board, My signal chain is Polytune, Reverb, Echo base, Tap Tempo Tremolo, ART Tube preamp.  Since my acoustic has an active pickup I get quite a loud pop when I engage my tuner or other True bypass pedals.  To solve this problem I found that by putting a Boss metal zone in front of the chain it almost eliminates the pop.  I assume this is because the Boss is a buffered pedal?  Since I don't really want to run my acoustic through a Distortion pedal I was hoping to get this off of my board.  Is there a good buffer I can build that would simulate what the Boss does? Can I just build a buffer pedal, no effect, is this possible?  or Is there a better solution?

Thanks,

Mike   

Mike Burgundy

Sounds like your experiencing DC offset. It shouldn't do that, although for some reason unknown (to me) this seems to happen sometimes with active acoustics - my double bass suffers from the same problem. Haven't chased it down yet, guess I'm lazy ;P
Your signal (say 1V peak-peak)swings around "0" - "0" as a DC level being equal to the voltage level at Ground. Signal goes from -1V to +1V. If there is an offset, your signal is swinging around (for example) 0.5V, so signal goes from -0.5V to 1.5V. No signal =0.5V DC.
What happens with that DC offset  is when you switch a TB pedal (the Poly is MOSFET/CMOS switched true bypass), the DC level is suddenly yanked from one voltage (0.5) to another (0) - for the electronics this is the same as an audio spike, and so you'll hear it. Buffered pedals work around this, but that still leaves you with a DC offset that shouldn't be there. Sometimes you can measure it (with a DMM with very high impedance - if too low measuring will bleed away the charge and it seems like there's nothing there). Most of the time it's a process of elimination - see if you can figure out where the offset is coming from, next install a (temporary) pull-down resistor to see if that helps. Replace the output cap and/or input cap, etc. Keep in mind it can be the guitar, a pedal, even the amp intoducing the offset!

So, a buffer *between whatever introduces the offset and the rest* will work, but is a band-aid. The real solution is finding the cause and fixing that.

Drumennut

Thank you for the reply.  I give it a go and see if I can find the source of the problem.