Vero layout to printed circuit board

[estch71]

I've seen a few programs that allow you to create vero or perfboard layouts (DIYLC for example) but, aren't there any that allow you to transfer the perf and/or veroboard layouts to a printed circuit board?  I like the veroboard but, I want to start learning to etch my own boards.  Preferably one for Mac.

Thanks

[ch1naski]

I used to hope for the same thing, but really, eagle cad is quite a bit better (provided you can input a schematic)...

[pappasmurfsharem]

You can do this just fine in DIYLC

Just use the trace component between the connections works fine you can also enable AUTO CREATE PADS.

[alexradium]

diylc is good also for pcb,just select it on preferences when you start the board.
for mac it was a bit incomplete as far as component choices,dont know now.
I use sprint layout,it is for windows but i run it in Crossover on Mac,fast and easy,tons of components to make a professional work.

[smallbearelec]

EAGLA CAD and DIYLC are good tools, but having suitable software isn't enough; the process of getting from a layout on perf or vero to workable PCB involves a lot of planning, and typically a lot of place-and-try. The object is to have a layout that puts all of your off-board connections as close as possible to where the actual components lie in the enclosure. R. G. Keen did a book that describes the process:

http://www.smallbearelec.com/servlet/Detail?no=679

You can also learn a lot by looking at vetted layouts here and at some of the other DIY sites.