LM567/LM567C Tone Decoder

Started by Hatredman, December 08, 2014, 04:45:37 PM

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Hatredman

http://www.ti.com.cn/cn/lit/ds/symlink/lm567.pdf

I can think of some applications for this, but what do you all think?
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digi2t

Logan 5 pseudo ring modulator.

Also used in the Snarling Dogs Mold Spore Wah.
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Quote from: digi2t on December 08, 2014, 04:50:42 PM
Logan 5 pseudo ring modulator.

Also used in the Snarling Dogs Mold Spore Wah.

Hummm, didn't know these.
These are all ring mod stuff, which is a clever way to use this little guy.

I was wondering if someone has used them "by the book" as a "tone comparator" - they just switch on when the input signal is within a programmed frequency band.

For example, you could use 2 of them to trigger different stuff for the higher and lower notes - silly one, turn on an octave up when notes are above a certain pitch, and an octave down when notes are below some other limit.

Kirk Hammet invented the Burst Box.

bluesdevil

Escobedo's simple Thing Modulator comes to mind.
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Love the thing modulator, as-is.  A pedal that not only sounds badass but makes you want to play slower, as several do, and let the note do its thing.
I recommend a way to stop the ticking when the thing is off.  Use the stompswitch contact that brings ground to your LED to turn it on, and have it ground pin 6 when the thing is off. Shut off the oscillator. I don't believe mine draws any current when 6 is grounded.  Used it a lot.  There is of course a little oscillator bleed when it's on but - only when you are not playing.  Every guitar player knows how to avoid that.
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Quote from: Hatredman on December 08, 2014, 10:10:41 PM
Quote from: digi2t on December 08, 2014, 04:50:42 PM
Logan 5 pseudo ring modulator.

Also used in the Snarling Dogs Mold Spore Wah.

Hummm, didn't know these.
These are all ring mod stuff, which is a clever way to use this little guy.

I was wondering if someone has used them "by the book" as a "tone comparator" - they just switch on when the input signal is within a programmed frequency band.

For example, you could use 2 of them to trigger different stuff for the higher and lower notes - silly one, turn on an octave up when notes are above a certain pitch, and an octave down when notes are below some other limit.



I've messed with them that way.  Don't know if there's a way to improve it, but the bandwidth for whatever freq. you select seems to be pretty wide - so that the chip can't really tell 400Hz from 500Hz, for example, within some tolerance (dunno what that is offhand).  So it would be an unreliable 'trigger' for guitar notes, i think.  It CAN act that way for a range of notes, tho.   That width makes it neat for triggering 'events', tho - think of triggering a flashing light on halloween in response to a tone above human hearing in a recording that's playing - 24kHz etc.  You don't have to be exact in the tone you generate! 

I bought a ton of these years ago and haven't used them much, but have wanted to do something fun with them that isn't a ring mod, lol.   I'm going to see what this thread generates for ideas....
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knutolai

Its used for the pseudo-ringmod in the Dwardcraft Devices Hax.

anotherjim

Limitation with that chip is the "VCO" has no CV system. It would better be called the local oscillator, hence it's typically used for ring mod.



But, hmmm,
If a vactrol LDR was used for the VCO timing R, and the LED driven from the loop filter, you might get some wibbly-wobbly pitch following action?

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