How do you set up an effects order switcher using 3PDT PCBs?

Started by danthug, November 12, 2015, 01:13:02 AM

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danthug

Hi Everyone!

How do you set up an effects order switcher using 3PDT PCBs?

I'm not interested in putting an LED (like guitarpcb's 4PDT effects order board), I just want a simple diagram which shows the two boards, their 2 on/off switches and the one effect order 3PDT PCB. I'd like the wiring diagram to also show how it's connected to DC jack and In and Out Jacks as well.

I am even willing to PAY someone for this wiring diagram! Email me at dandeleon123@gmail.com.
If you're interested in doing this for me shoot me an email. Obviously, if you want to do it for free, then fine, but I feel people need incentive. So, like I said, I'm willing to pay for your time. I know this is totally against the notion of "diy" but you have no idea how frustrated I am with this...

To help you out, I have attached the links to the PCBs I will use.

Effects Order 3PDT PCBs:

http://www.guitarpcb.com/apps/webstore/products/show/4611320
or
http://shop.pedalparts.co.uk/Effect_Order_Switcher/p847124_13121542.aspx

3PDT PCBs:

http://pcb.delyk.com/utility-boards/12-3pdt-pcb.html
or
http://www.bitcheslovemyswitches.com/#!/3PDT-Wiring-Board/p/39208323/category=10252302

I have searched endlessly through forums, facebook groups and even emailed some online DIY guitar pedal store owners with no luck!

Thank you and I appreciate all the help.

samhay

Search for 'geofex juggler'.
No need for a PCB as these are not designed to do this - you would have to cut the bypass trace between switch lugs.

Edit - didn't check the links when on my phone earlier.

These both seem to do what you want
http://www.guitarpcb.com/apps/webstore/products/show/4611320
http://shop.pedalparts.co.uk/Effect_Order_Switcher/p847124_13121542.aspx

These don't
http://pcb.delyk.com/utility-boards/12-3pdt-pcb.html
http://www.bitcheslovemyswitches.com/#!/3PDT-Wiring-Board/p/39208323/category=10252302
I'm a refugee of the great dropbox purge of '17.
Project details (schematics, layouts, etc) are slowly being added here: http://samdump.wordpress.com

mth5044

You say 'Or' when you reference the links. Which do you have?

Mark Hammer

John Lyons had a diagram for order-flipping over at the basic audio site. 

I do my order-flipping with a toggle, rather than stompswitch, because the physical location of the bat handle provides a visual indicator, and it's not the sort of thing I'd need to do mid-tune.  If you can do it that way, a 3PDT toggle is sufficient.  If you need a visual indicator for use with a stompswitch, then 4PDT is required.

danthug

Quote from: mth5044 on November 12, 2015, 08:42:19 AM
You say 'Or' when you reference the links. Which do you have?

I have neither. Haven't purchased them yet.

danthug

Quote from: Mark Hammer on November 12, 2015, 10:35:08 AM
John Lyons had a diagram for order-flipping over at the basic audio site. 

I do my order-flipping with a toggle, rather than stompswitch, because the physical location of the bat handle provides a visual indicator, and it's not the sort of thing I'd need to do mid-tune.  If you can do it that way, a 3PDT toggle is sufficient.  If you need a visual indicator for use with a stompswitch, then 4PDT is required.

Oh man do you have a link on you? I visited http://www.basicaudio.net and couldn't find that diagram, you're talking about the tri/ram muff, right?

Mark Hammer

John had a bunch of how-to-do-it illustrations and circuit diagrams, which I gather have disappeared as he has tried to make his site more of a commercial operations.  I can't do it from work, but I'll post the drawing later this evening, once I'm home.

nocentelli

No need to use a pcb with a footswitch: Here's the diagram for a 4PDT, just ignore the column on the right hand side. SA = send to fx A, RA = return from fx A etc.

http://music.codydeschenes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/4PDT1.png
Quote from: kayceesqueeze on the back and never open it up again

Mark Hammer

As promised, though probably redundant at this point.  The switch shown is 4PDT, but only 3 poles are needed if using a toggle.


danthug

Yeah I guess I never understood beavis' wiring diagrams. :/ But hey I get it now thanks to an explanation by someone at the guitarpcb forums.
Thanks to you all who left a comment as well.

I used this to answer my question: http://www.guitarpcb.com/PDF%20Files/FXCT%20v1.pdf
Although it had to be explained to me thoroughly (I wasn't sure how the tip and sleeve were connected to the effects switcher. They are connected the same way as a this way: http://www.guitarpcb.com/PDF%20Files/3PDT%20WIRING%20BOARD%20v4.pdf)

Again, many thanks! Love this forum!